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12 Aug 2005 10:38 PM

Vitali V

Just in case for logon scipt, what language the best to use, I mean:
batch
VBS
Perl

Which one is more powerful?
For example for basic things:
map network drive
connect printer
may be update some files on a workstations

With best regards,

Vitali

13 Aug 2005 1:40 PM

Marty List

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"Vitali V" <vit***@dynamo-ny.com> wrote in message
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> Just in case for logon scipt, what language the best to use, I mean:
> batch
> VBS
> Perl
>
> Which one is more powerful?
> For example for basic things:
> map network drive
> connect printer
> may be update some files on a workstations
>
> With best regards,
>
> Vitali

This is mostly a personal preference for the people who will be supporting
the logon script. I would say that Perl is the "most powerful" but I
haven't seen very much Perl sample code for logon scripts. So most of what
you write will be from scratch.

The Internet has many VBScript examples useful for logon scripts, this is
probably the most popular.

I like batch files for my own admin scripts, but not for logon scripts.
There's too many differences between OS versions and without calling
external, many times 3rd party executables, your functionality is limited.

My personal favorite for logon scripts is KiXtart:
http://www.kixtart.org/
http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/
http://boards.cramsession.com/boards/vbt.asp?b=45
http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/
http://www.kixscripts.com/main.asp
http://www.kixhelp.com/
http://kix.isorg.com/
http://www.kixforms.com/
http://www.adminscripteditor.com/main.asp

15 Aug 2005 5:05 AM

Al Dunbar [MS-MVP]

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"Marty List" <use***@optimumx.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Vitali V" <vit***@dynamo-ny.com> wrote in message
> news:OMatc54nFHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Just in case for logon scipt, what language the best to use, I mean:
> > batch
> > VBS
> > Perl
> >
> > Which one is more powerful?
> > For example for basic things:
> > map network drive
> > connect printer
> > may be update some files on a workstations
> >
> > With best regards,
> >
> > Vitali
>
>
> This is mostly a personal preference for the people who will be supporting
> the logon script. I would say that Perl is the "most powerful" but I
> haven't seen very much Perl sample code for logon scripts. So most of
what
> you write will be from scratch.
>
> The Internet has many VBScript examples useful for logon scripts, this is
> probably the most popular.
>
> I like batch files for my own admin scripts, but not for logon scripts.
> There's too many differences between OS versions and without calling
> external, many times 3rd party executables, your functionality is limited.
>
> My personal favorite for logon scripts is KiXtart:
> http://www.kixtart.org/
> http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/
> http://boards.cramsession.com/boards/vbt.asp?b=45
> http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/
> http://www.kixscripts.com/main.asp
> http://www.kixhelp.com/
> http://kix.isorg.com/
> http://www.kixforms.com/
> http://www.adminscripteditor.com/main.asp

A well-rounded response to the question. I would only add that the best
language to use might not be the most powerful, but the one most applicable,
and most able to do what one wants in a logon script (and that might be
different for different organizations).

In fact, powerfulness could be, in fact, a bad thing in some cases. I have
seen numerour examples where logon scripts morphed into some sort of "let's
do everything we can possibly do here just because we can" kind of
enterprise. In my view, logon scripts should:

    a) be simple;
    b) be short;
    c) not take long to run;
    d) not do very much.

In some environments, a weaker language might be best, as long as it could
do what was needed without too much effort. If I were re-doing the scripts I
converted from kixtart to vbscript, I would give serious consideration to
batch.

/Al

15 Aug 2005 7:20 PM

Vitali V

Thank you for your answer

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"Marty List" <use***@optimumx.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Vitali V" <vit***@dynamo-ny.com> wrote in message
> news:OMatc54nFHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Just in case for logon scipt, what language the best to use, I mean:
> > batch
> > VBS
> > Perl
> >
> > Which one is more powerful?
> > For example for basic things:
> > map network drive
> > connect printer
> > may be update some files on a workstations
> >
> > With best regards,
> >
> > Vitali
>
>
> This is mostly a personal preference for the people who will be supporting
> the logon script. I would say that Perl is the "most powerful" but I
> haven't seen very much Perl sample code for logon scripts. So most of
what
> you write will be from scratch.
>
> The Internet has many VBScript examples useful for logon scripts, this is
> probably the most popular.
>
> I like batch files for my own admin scripts, but not for logon scripts.
> There's too many differences between OS versions and without calling
> external, many times 3rd party executables, your functionality is limited.
>
> My personal favorite for logon scripts is KiXtart:
> http://www.kixtart.org/
> http://www.scriptlogic.com/kixtart/
> http://boards.cramsession.com/boards/vbt.asp?b=45
> http://helpdesk.kixtart.org/
> http://www.kixscripts.com/main.asp
> http://www.kixhelp.com/
> http://kix.isorg.com/
> http://www.kixforms.com/
> http://www.adminscripteditor.com/main.asp
>
>
>