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Adding Windows Server 2003 R2 machine to existing W2k3AD

Author
10 Feb 2006 10:29 PM
Steve Spence
We upgraded our AD to Server 2003 about a year ago and things have been
running pretty well. The schema is at 2003 native mode with Exchange 2003.

After several other projects we're splitting the AD into the various sites
representative of the LAN/WAN geography, so I'm adding a pair of DCs to the
network to sit in two of the sites.

The new machines only differ in that they're Server 2003 R2 - the original
DCs were set up as 2k3 and later upgraded to SP1.

Anyhow, going through the AD install wizard the process fails with:

The operation failed because:

The Active Directory Installation Wizard cannot continue because the forest
is not prepared for installing Windows Server 2003. Use the Adprep
command-line tool to prepare both the forest and the domain. For more
information about using the Adprep, see Active Directory Help.

"The version of the Active Directory schema of the source forest is not
compatible with the version of Active Directory on this computer."




Any thoughts?

Author
10 Feb 2006 10:56 PM
Cary Shultz
Steve,

This is pretty straight-forward.

When you move from one Active Directory to another (for example, from
WIN2000 to WIN2003) you need to extend the Schema.  In order to do that you
drop in the WIN2003 Server CD-Media and run adprep /forestprep on the Domain
Controller that holds the FSMO Role of Schema Admin and then, after giving
it time to replicate throughout the forest, you need to run adprep
/domainprep in each Domain in the environment on the Domain Controller that
holds the FSMO Role of Infrastructure Master.

So, you would need to do this in your environment.

Does this help?

--
Cary W. Shultz
Roanoke, VA  24012

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"Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F2ED28E0-86FA-4C1D-8013-BC9C109CDA32@microsoft.com...
> We upgraded our AD to Server 2003 about a year ago and things have been
> running pretty well. The schema is at 2003 native mode with Exchange 2003.
>
> After several other projects we're splitting the AD into the various sites
> representative of the LAN/WAN geography, so I'm adding a pair of DCs to
> the
> network to sit in two of the sites.
>
> The new machines only differ in that they're Server 2003 R2 - the original
> DCs were set up as 2k3 and later upgraded to SP1.
>
> Anyhow, going through the AD install wizard the process fails with:
>
> The operation failed because:
>
> The Active Directory Installation Wizard cannot continue because the
> forest
> is not prepared for installing Windows Server 2003. Use the Adprep
> command-line tool to prepare both the forest and the domain. For more
> information about using the Adprep, see Active Directory Help.
>
> "The version of the Active Directory schema of the source forest is not
> compatible with the version of Active Directory on this computer."
>
>
>
>
> Any thoughts?
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Author
10 Feb 2006 11:07 PM
Steve Spence
Thanks Cary, I've actually caught the problem now but it's not quite as
straightforward as you make out below...

The AD is already 2003 native, so Schema level 30, fine for W2k3/W2k3SP1...

Microsoft have made a bit of a bodge here however, as the R2 media has TWO
copies of the ADPREP utility, etc.

You may already know this, but CD1 isn't just Server2003 SP1, it has been
modified slightly to handle the R2 components install but they've left things
on there too that should have probably been removed.

CD1 contains the same ADPREP util as you find on normal W2k3 Server media.

CD2 contains another copy, a different one which raises the schema to 31,
which is compatible with R2 DC's, and almost completely undocumented. I
caught it in the end with another post on here from one of the ever-helpful
MVPs...


DC is already installed and running. :) Thanks anyhow!




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"Cary Shultz" wrote:

> Steve,
>
> This is pretty straight-forward.
>
> When you move from one Active Directory to another (for example, from
> WIN2000 to WIN2003) you need to extend the Schema.  In order to do that you
> drop in the WIN2003 Server CD-Media and run adprep /forestprep on the Domain
> Controller that holds the FSMO Role of Schema Admin and then, after giving
> it time to replicate throughout the forest, you need to run adprep
> /domainprep in each Domain in the environment on the Domain Controller that
> holds the FSMO Role of Infrastructure Master.
>
> So, you would need to do this in your environment.
>
> Does this help?
>
> --
> Cary W. Shultz
> Roanoke, VA  24012
>
> "Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F2ED28E0-86FA-4C1D-8013-BC9C109CDA32@microsoft.com...
> > We upgraded our AD to Server 2003 about a year ago and things have been
> > running pretty well. The schema is at 2003 native mode with Exchange 2003.
> >
> > After several other projects we're splitting the AD into the various sites
> > representative of the LAN/WAN geography, so I'm adding a pair of DCs to
> > the
> > network to sit in two of the sites.
> >
> > The new machines only differ in that they're Server 2003 R2 - the original
> > DCs were set up as 2k3 and later upgraded to SP1.
> >
> > Anyhow, going through the AD install wizard the process fails with:
> >
> > The operation failed because:
> >
> > The Active Directory Installation Wizard cannot continue because the
> > forest
> > is not prepared for installing Windows Server 2003. Use the Adprep
> > command-line tool to prepare both the forest and the domain. For more
> > information about using the Adprep, see Active Directory Help.
> >
> > "The version of the Active Directory schema of the source forest is not
> > compatible with the version of Active Directory on this computer."
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts?
>
>
>
Author
11 Feb 2006 2:48 AM
Cary Shultz
Steve,

See what happens when you speak to something that you have not yet done!
Did not know about the two versions of adprep.  That is good to know.

And I am pretty sure that the MVP was PaulW.  He is very helpful.  Take a
spin over to his really nice web site and join his forum.  It is not quite
as busy as this one, but that can be a very good thing!  With Paul answering
questions you can not go wrong.

--
Cary W. Shultz
Roanoke, VA  24012

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"Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F068C09C-DB5A-4E7B-838D-187C77C841A1@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Cary, I've actually caught the problem now but it's not quite as
> straightforward as you make out below...
>
> The AD is already 2003 native, so Schema level 30, fine for
> W2k3/W2k3SP1...
>
> Microsoft have made a bit of a bodge here however, as the R2 media has TWO
> copies of the ADPREP utility, etc.
>
> You may already know this, but CD1 isn't just Server2003 SP1, it has been
> modified slightly to handle the R2 components install but they've left
> things
> on there too that should have probably been removed.
>
> CD1 contains the same ADPREP util as you find on normal W2k3 Server media.
>
> CD2 contains another copy, a different one which raises the schema to 31,
> which is compatible with R2 DC's, and almost completely undocumented. I
> caught it in the end with another post on here from one of the
> ever-helpful
> MVPs...
>
>
> DC is already installed and running. :) Thanks anyhow!
>
>
>
>
> "Cary Shultz" wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> This is pretty straight-forward.
>>
>> When you move from one Active Directory to another (for example, from
>> WIN2000 to WIN2003) you need to extend the Schema.  In order to do that
>> you
>> drop in the WIN2003 Server CD-Media and run adprep /forestprep on the
>> Domain
>> Controller that holds the FSMO Role of Schema Admin and then, after
>> giving
>> it time to replicate throughout the forest, you need to run adprep
>> /domainprep in each Domain in the environment on the Domain Controller
>> that
>> holds the FSMO Role of Infrastructure Master.
>>
>> So, you would need to do this in your environment.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> --
>> Cary W. Shultz
>> Roanoke, VA  24012
>>
>> "Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F2ED28E0-86FA-4C1D-8013-BC9C109CDA32@microsoft.com...
>> > We upgraded our AD to Server 2003 about a year ago and things have been
>> > running pretty well. The schema is at 2003 native mode with Exchange
>> > 2003.
>> >
>> > After several other projects we're splitting the AD into the various
>> > sites
>> > representative of the LAN/WAN geography, so I'm adding a pair of DCs to
>> > the
>> > network to sit in two of the sites.
>> >
>> > The new machines only differ in that they're Server 2003 R2 - the
>> > original
>> > DCs were set up as 2k3 and later upgraded to SP1.
>> >
>> > Anyhow, going through the AD install wizard the process fails with:
>> >
>> > The operation failed because:
>> >
>> > The Active Directory Installation Wizard cannot continue because the
>> > forest
>> > is not prepared for installing Windows Server 2003. Use the Adprep
>> > command-line tool to prepare both the forest and the domain. For more
>> > information about using the Adprep, see Active Directory Help.
>> >
>> > "The version of the Active Directory schema of the source forest is not
>> > compatible with the version of Active Directory on this computer."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
Author
12 Feb 2006 2:34 PM
Paul Bergson
Steve,
Although Cary might not have nailed this directly on the head, he was just
unfamiliar with a specific piece but correct on the schema extension,
etc....  Nobody in here can know every little intricacy.

Cary is a very sharp dude and a former MVP.

--


Paul Bergson  MCT, MCSE, MCSA, CNE, CNA, CCA

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


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"Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F068C09C-DB5A-4E7B-838D-187C77C841A1@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Cary, I've actually caught the problem now but it's not quite as
> straightforward as you make out below...
>
> The AD is already 2003 native, so Schema level 30, fine for
> W2k3/W2k3SP1...
>
> Microsoft have made a bit of a bodge here however, as the R2 media has TWO
> copies of the ADPREP utility, etc.
>
> You may already know this, but CD1 isn't just Server2003 SP1, it has been
> modified slightly to handle the R2 components install but they've left
> things
> on there too that should have probably been removed.
>
> CD1 contains the same ADPREP util as you find on normal W2k3 Server media.
>
> CD2 contains another copy, a different one which raises the schema to 31,
> which is compatible with R2 DC's, and almost completely undocumented. I
> caught it in the end with another post on here from one of the
> ever-helpful
> MVPs...
>
>
> DC is already installed and running. :) Thanks anyhow!
>
>
>
>
> "Cary Shultz" wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>>
>> This is pretty straight-forward.
>>
>> When you move from one Active Directory to another (for example, from
>> WIN2000 to WIN2003) you need to extend the Schema.  In order to do that
>> you
>> drop in the WIN2003 Server CD-Media and run adprep /forestprep on the
>> Domain
>> Controller that holds the FSMO Role of Schema Admin and then, after
>> giving
>> it time to replicate throughout the forest, you need to run adprep
>> /domainprep in each Domain in the environment on the Domain Controller
>> that
>> holds the FSMO Role of Infrastructure Master.
>>
>> So, you would need to do this in your environment.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>> --
>> Cary W. Shultz
>> Roanoke, VA  24012
>>
>> "Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F2ED28E0-86FA-4C1D-8013-BC9C109CDA32@microsoft.com...
>> > We upgraded our AD to Server 2003 about a year ago and things have been
>> > running pretty well. The schema is at 2003 native mode with Exchange
>> > 2003.
>> >
>> > After several other projects we're splitting the AD into the various
>> > sites
>> > representative of the LAN/WAN geography, so I'm adding a pair of DCs to
>> > the
>> > network to sit in two of the sites.
>> >
>> > The new machines only differ in that they're Server 2003 R2 - the
>> > original
>> > DCs were set up as 2k3 and later upgraded to SP1.
>> >
>> > Anyhow, going through the AD install wizard the process fails with:
>> >
>> > The operation failed because:
>> >
>> > The Active Directory Installation Wizard cannot continue because the
>> > forest
>> > is not prepared for installing Windows Server 2003. Use the Adprep
>> > command-line tool to prepare both the forest and the domain. For more
>> > information about using the Adprep, see Active Directory Help.
>> >
>> > "The version of the Active Directory schema of the source forest is not
>> > compatible with the version of Active Directory on this computer."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Any thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
Author
12 Feb 2006 3:01 PM
Cary Shultz
Also, unless I am mistaken, there is no /domainprep necessary when moving to
R2!  Well, that is only valid if you are going from Windows Server 2003 to
R2.  If you are going from WIN2000 to R2 then you do need to run adprep
/domainprep.

And the location of the adprep utility is a bit hidden.  You are correct
that it is on CD2.  Specifically it is located in the | CMPNENTS | R2 |
ADPREP folder on CD2.

I need to get this.  Hey, I will be three weeks behind on this instead of
three years!

--
Cary W. Shultz
Roanoke, VA  24012

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"Paul Bergson" <pberg***@allete.com> wrote in message
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> Steve,
> Although Cary might not have nailed this directly on the head, he was just
> unfamiliar with a specific piece but correct on the schema extension,
> etc....  Nobody in here can know every little intricacy.
>
> Cary is a very sharp dude and a former MVP.
>
> --
>
>
> Paul Bergson  MCT, MCSE, MCSA, CNE, CNA, CCA
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>
> "Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F068C09C-DB5A-4E7B-838D-187C77C841A1@microsoft.com...
>> Thanks Cary, I've actually caught the problem now but it's not quite as
>> straightforward as you make out below...
>>
>> The AD is already 2003 native, so Schema level 30, fine for
>> W2k3/W2k3SP1...
>>
>> Microsoft have made a bit of a bodge here however, as the R2 media has
>> TWO
>> copies of the ADPREP utility, etc.
>>
>> You may already know this, but CD1 isn't just Server2003 SP1, it has been
>> modified slightly to handle the R2 components install but they've left
>> things
>> on there too that should have probably been removed.
>>
>> CD1 contains the same ADPREP util as you find on normal W2k3 Server
>> media.
>>
>> CD2 contains another copy, a different one which raises the schema to 31,
>> which is compatible with R2 DC's, and almost completely undocumented. I
>> caught it in the end with another post on here from one of the
>> ever-helpful
>> MVPs...
>>
>>
>> DC is already installed and running. :) Thanks anyhow!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Cary Shultz" wrote:
>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> This is pretty straight-forward.
>>>
>>> When you move from one Active Directory to another (for example, from
>>> WIN2000 to WIN2003) you need to extend the Schema.  In order to do that
>>> you
>>> drop in the WIN2003 Server CD-Media and run adprep /forestprep on the
>>> Domain
>>> Controller that holds the FSMO Role of Schema Admin and then, after
>>> giving
>>> it time to replicate throughout the forest, you need to run adprep
>>> /domainprep in each Domain in the environment on the Domain Controller
>>> that
>>> holds the FSMO Role of Infrastructure Master.
>>>
>>> So, you would need to do this in your environment.
>>>
>>> Does this help?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cary W. Shultz
>>> Roanoke, VA  24012
>>>
>>> "Steve Spence" <SteveSpe***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:F2ED28E0-86FA-4C1D-8013-BC9C109CDA32@microsoft.com...
>>> > We upgraded our AD to Server 2003 about a year ago and things have
>>> > been
>>> > running pretty well. The schema is at 2003 native mode with Exchange
>>> > 2003.
>>> >
>>> > After several other projects we're splitting the AD into the various
>>> > sites
>>> > representative of the LAN/WAN geography, so I'm adding a pair of DCs
>>> > to
>>> > the
>>> > network to sit in two of the sites.
>>> >
>>> > The new machines only differ in that they're Server 2003 R2 - the
>>> > original
>>> > DCs were set up as 2k3 and later upgraded to SP1.
>>> >
>>> > Anyhow, going through the AD install wizard the process fails with:
>>> >
>>> > The operation failed because:
>>> >
>>> > The Active Directory Installation Wizard cannot continue because the
>>> > forest
>>> > is not prepared for installing Windows Server 2003. Use the Adprep
>>> > command-line tool to prepare both the forest and the domain. For more
>>> > information about using the Adprep, see Active Directory Help.
>>> >
>>> > "The version of the Active Directory schema of the source forest is
>>> > not
>>> > compatible with the version of Active Directory on this computer."
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Any thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

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