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Author
27 Nov 2007 10:07 PM
Rich
I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS 2003 R2
SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the remote
office.
The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and has
joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look on
CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to access
Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
operation.

How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new server?
I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but could not
figure out how.

Author
27 Nov 2007 10:19 PM
Meinolf Weber
Hello rich,

Is the SBS 2003 running as R2 domain or not, check with winver from the run
line.

If you only will add the 2003 Standard to the SBS domain, it should work
if the domain is prepared for R2 or not, because the 2003 Standard is not R2.

So did you run dcpromo and get an error, then please post the error message
here?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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> I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS
> 2003 R2
> SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the
> remote
> office.
> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and
> has
> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to
> look on
> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
> access
> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest
> wide
> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun
> this
> operation.
> How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
> server? I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but
> could not figure out how.
>
Author
29 Nov 2007 12:16 AM
Rich
The CD's I used say R2, but when I run the Winver is says Windows Server 2003
for Small Business Server no R2, not sure why but it does not appear to be
running R2.  Now that would make sense because CD2 is the Exchange CD, and
Adprep is on CD1 in the \i386 directory. 

As I listed previously when I run Adprep the message is: "Forest wide
information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
operation."

That's what has me confused.  Neither server is apparently R2 so I would
think compatability would be better.  I can not prep the forest so I am not
sure what to do. I can find Adprep I just can not successfuly run it. 
According to Technet the Adprep file is on CD1 for NON-R2 versions of SBS so
I have that part right.   I am just can not figure out what to do or what
patch I am missing.

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"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello rich,
>
> Is the SBS 2003 running as R2 domain or not, check with winver from the run
> line.
>
> If you only will add the 2003 Standard to the SBS domain, it should work
> if the domain is prepared for R2 or not, because the 2003 Standard is not R2.
>
> So did you run dcpromo and get an error, then please post the error message
> here?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> > I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS
> > 2003 R2
> > SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the
> > remote
> > office.
> > The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and
> > has
> > joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to
> > look on
> > CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
> > access
> > Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest
> > wide
> > information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun
> > this
> > operation.
> > How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
> > server? I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but
> > could not figure out how.
> >
>
>
>
Author
29 Nov 2007 12:30 AM
kj [SBS MVP]
Rich wrote:
> The CD's I used say R2, but when I run the Winver is says Windows
> Server 2003 for Small Business Server no R2, not sure why but it does
> not appear to be running R2.  Now that would make sense because CD2
> is the Exchange CD, and Adprep is on CD1 in the \i386 directory.
>

In the ultimate level of R2 confusion, Windows Server 2003 R2 *IS NOT* the
same thing as Windows Small Business Server R2. They are two different
things. Put that aside for now.

Do you have the Windows 2003 R2 TWO CD Set for your plain Windows 2003
Standard R2 server?

If yes, then that is the CD#2 that you will find the adprep (v31) necessary
to upgrade the Active Directory (forest) schema for WINDOWS 2003 R2 Domain
Controllers.

Does it make a little more sense now?


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> As I listed previously when I run Adprep the message is: "Forest wide
> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun
> this operation."
>
> That's what has me confused.  Neither server is apparently R2 so I
> would think compatability would be better.  I can not prep the forest
> so I am not sure what to do. I can find Adprep I just can not
> successfuly run it. According to Technet the Adprep file is on CD1
> for NON-R2 versions of SBS so I have that part right.   I am just can
> not figure out what to do or what patch I am missing.
>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello rich,
>>
>> Is the SBS 2003 running as R2 domain or not, check with winver from
>> the run line.
>>
>> If you only will add the 2003 Standard to the SBS domain, it should
>> work
>> if the domain is prepared for R2 or not, because the 2003 Standard
>> is not R2.
>>
>> So did you run dcpromo and get an error, then please post the error
>> message here?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>> I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS
>>> 2003 R2
>>> SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the
>>> remote
>>> office.
>>> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2
>>> and has
>>> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to
>>> look on
>>> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
>>> access
>>> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest
>>> wide
>>> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to
>>> rerun this
>>> operation.
>>> How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the
>>> new server? I saw someting in another thread about updating the
>>> Schema but could not figure out how.

--
/kj
Author
29 Nov 2007 4:54 AM
Rich
Winver shows 2003 Server SBS ver 5.2, it does not say R2.
I would not think I need to extend the schema but when I run DCpromo on the
new 2003 Standard Svr it says I need to prepare the forest and domain by
running Adprep, which I can not run because the SBS server gives me a message
that the forest is already prepared.

Any ideas?

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"Meinolf Weber" wrote:

> Hello rich,
>
> Is the SBS 2003 running as R2 domain or not, check with winver from the run
> line.
>
> If you only will add the 2003 Standard to the SBS domain, it should work
> if the domain is prepared for R2 or not, because the 2003 Standard is not R2.
>
> So did you run dcpromo and get an error, then please post the error message
> here?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>
> > I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS
> > 2003 R2
> > SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the
> > remote
> > office.
> > The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and
> > has
> > joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to
> > look on
> > CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
> > access
> > Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest
> > wide
> > information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun
> > this
> > operation.
> > How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
> > server? I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but
> > could not figure out how.
> >
>
>
>
Author
29 Nov 2007 5:06 AM
kj [SBS MVP]
Rich wrote:
> Winver shows 2003 Server SBS ver 5.2, it does not say R2.
> I would not think I need to extend the schema but when I run DCpromo
> on the new 2003 Standard Svr it says I need to prepare the forest and
> domain by running Adprep, which I can not run because the SBS server
> gives me a message that the forest is already prepared.
>
> Any ideas?

Rich, this has been answered for you a couple of times in this thread alone.


It doesn't matter what winver says on SBS.

SBS R2 does *NOT* equal Windows 2003 R2.

The schema needs to be upgraded to V31 to accomodate Windows 2003 R2 as
Domain Controllers.

*NONE* of the SBS 2003 CD's have the V31 Schema updates needed for Windows
2003 R2 Domain Controllers.

You *MUST* use the *WINDOWS 2003 R2 CD2* for this Schema update.


I don't know how to make it any clearer.


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>
> "Meinolf Weber" wrote:
>
>> Hello rich,
>>
>> Is the SBS 2003 running as R2 domain or not, check with winver from
>> the run line.
>>
>> If you only will add the 2003 Standard to the SBS domain, it should
>> work
>> if the domain is prepared for R2 or not, because the 2003 Standard
>> is not R2.
>>
>> So did you run dcpromo and get an error, then please post the error
>> message here?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>
>>> I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS
>>> 2003 R2
>>> SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the
>>> remote
>>> office.
>>> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2
>>> and has
>>> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to
>>> look on
>>> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
>>> access
>>> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest
>>> wide
>>> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to
>>> rerun this
>>> operation.
>>> How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the
>>> new server? I saw someting in another thread about updating the
>>> Schema but could not figure out how.

--
/kj
Author
27 Nov 2007 10:20 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
I really know very little about SBS but you could download the trial of R2
from Microsoft's download site and run it from disk2 of that system.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

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"Rich" <R***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:519B097D-A9E7-45F9-98B3-39EDDD05E718@microsoft.com...
>I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS 2003
>R2
> SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the remote
> office.
> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and has
> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> on
> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to access
> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> operation.
>
> How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
> server?
> I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but could not
> figure out how.
Author
27 Nov 2007 11:01 PM
Danny Sanders
> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and has
> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> on
> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to access
> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> operation.


Sounds to me like you are using the Exchange CDs and not the Win 2k3 R2 CDs.

> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> on
> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD,

Disk one of the R2 set is WIn 2k3 w/ SP 1 or 2. Disk 2 is the R2 features
NOT exchange.

> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> operation.

Sounds like you are using the Exchange CDs and the domain is already prepped
for Exchange. You need to use the R2 CDs.


hth
DDS

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"Rich" <R***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:519B097D-A9E7-45F9-98B3-39EDDD05E718@microsoft.com...
>I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS 2003
>R2
> SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the remote
> office.
> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and has
> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> on
> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to access
> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> operation.
>
> How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
> server?
> I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but could not
> figure out how.
Author
28 Nov 2007 5:39 AM
kj [SBS MVP]
Danny Sanders wrote:
>> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2
>> and has joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was
>> told to look on
>> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
>> access Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says
>> "Forest wide information has already been updated. Adprep did not
>> attempt to rerun this operation.
>
>
> Sounds to me like you are using the Exchange CDs and not the Win 2k3
> R2 CDs.

Exactly.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917385/en-us

OP, Run this on the SBS server, but use the Windows 2003 R2 CD2 disk for the
adprep. Then go back to your dcpromo.

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>
>> joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to
>> look on
>> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD,
>
> Disk one of the R2 set is WIn 2k3 w/ SP 1 or 2. Disk 2 is the R2
> features NOT exchange.
>
>> Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest
>> wide information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to
>> rerun this operation.
>
> Sounds like you are using the Exchange CDs and the domain is already
> prepped for Exchange. You need to use the R2 CDs.
>
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "Rich" <R***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:519B097D-A9E7-45F9-98B3-39EDDD05E718@microsoft.com...
>> I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS
>> 2003 R2
>> SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the
>> remote office.
>> The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2
>> and has joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was
>> told to look on
>> CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to
>> access Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says
>> "Forest wide information has already been updated. Adprep did not
>> attempt to rerun this operation.
>>
>> How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
>> server?
>> I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but could
>> not figure out how.

--
/kj
Author
29 Nov 2007 4:51 AM
Rich
The CD's say R2 on them but when I run Winver it says 2003 SBS Server ver 5.2.
It does not say R2 so I do not need the CD's.

Show quote
"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and has
> > joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> > on
> > CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to access
> > Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> > information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> > operation.
>
>
> Sounds to me like you are using the Exchange CDs and not the Win 2k3 R2 CDs.
>
> > joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> > on
> > CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD,
>
> Disk one of the R2 set is WIn 2k3 w/ SP 1 or 2. Disk 2 is the R2 features
> NOT exchange.
>
> > Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> > information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> > operation.
>
> Sounds like you are using the Exchange CDs and the domain is already prepped
> for Exchange. You need to use the R2 CDs.
>
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "Rich" <R***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:519B097D-A9E7-45F9-98B3-39EDDD05E718@microsoft.com...
> >I want to add a 2003 DC to a remote office to communicate with a SBS 2003
> >R2
> > SVR accross a VPN.  The goal is for users to login quicker at the remote
> > office.
> > The 2003 Standard SVR is currently at the office with SBS 2003 R2 and has
> > joined the SBS Domain.  I want to promote it to a DC and was told to look
> > on
> > CD2 of the R2 set but that is the Exchange CD, so I am using CD1 to access
> > Adprep under /i386.  When I run Adprep /forestprep is says "Forest wide
> > information has already been updated. Adprep did not attempt to rerun this
> > operation.
> >
> > How can I get this to run so I will be able to run DCpromo on the new
> > server?
> > I saw someting in another thread about updating the Schema but could not
> > figure out how.
>
>
>

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