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How to exclude ADAM user from AD domain lockout policy??

Author
10 Feb 2006 7:06 PM
Jims
Is there any way to exclude individual ADAM user class accounts from the AD
domain account lockout policy?  Can this be accomplished on a per user basis
or would we need to exclude the ADAM server from the Active Directory domain
group policy?
Thanks,
Jim

Author
10 Feb 2006 9:39 PM
Lee Flight
Hi

AFAIK the only component of password policy that can be suspended per
user is account expiry (msDS-UserDontExpirePassword, very useful
if you have long-lived service accounts for which you can set complex
passwords).

Beyond that you can exclude the ADAM instance from all password policy
(ADAMDisablePasswordPolicies in the "configurable setting" submenu in
dsmgmt).

Another possibility is that you set the password policy in the local
security
policy of the ADAM instance server to the values you want but those will
only be used if the server is not getting domain policy.

Lee Flight




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"Jims" <b**@neocasa.net> wrote in message
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> Is there any way to exclude individual ADAM user class accounts from the
> AD domain account lockout policy?  Can this be accomplished on a per user
> basis or would we need to exclude the ADAM server from the Active
> Directory domain group policy?
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
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Author
10 Feb 2006 10:15 PM
Jims
For the time being we have added our ADAM servers to a new OU and created a
GPO with a lockout setting of 999 attempts in 1 minute.  The GPO is applied
after the domain gpo so this resolves our highest priority issue of critical
service accounts getting locked out do to admin error.  Unfortunately it
means all user class accounts effects cannot be locked out in the case of
malicious login attempts.  We're still looking for a better solution and
will post any new findings.  Lee - I will take a look at the dsmgmt options
as well - thanks.
Jim


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"Lee Flight" <l**@le.ac.uk-nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> AFAIK the only component of password policy that can be suspended per
> user is account expiry (msDS-UserDontExpirePassword, very useful
> if you have long-lived service accounts for which you can set complex
> passwords).
>
> Beyond that you can exclude the ADAM instance from all password policy
> (ADAMDisablePasswordPolicies in the "configurable setting" submenu in
> dsmgmt).
>
> Another possibility is that you set the password policy in the local
> security
> policy of the ADAM instance server to the values you want but those will
> only be used if the server is not getting domain policy.
>
> Lee Flight
>
>
>
>
> "Jims" <b**@neocasa.net> wrote in message
> news:%23q8tqUnLGHA.2812@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> Is there any way to exclude individual ADAM user class accounts from the
>> AD domain account lockout policy?  Can this be accomplished on a per user
>> basis or would we need to exclude the ADAM server from the Active
>> Directory domain group policy?
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
>>
>
>
Author
11 Feb 2006 12:19 AM
Lee Flight
Hi

I had never tried setting the account lockout at the OU as that applies
only to local accounts on the computer in the OU right? So you are
saying that means ADAM accounts in this case...I'll give it a try.

FWIW I have been leaning toward the idea that a dedicated
(user) objectclass would be useful for certain roles e.g. native ADAM
administrators and some service accounts.

Thanks,
Lee Flight

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"Jims" <b**@neocasa.net> wrote in message
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> For the time being we have added our ADAM servers to a new OU and created
> a GPO with a lockout setting of 999 attempts in 1 minute.  The GPO is
> applied after the domain gpo so this resolves our highest priority issue
> of critical service accounts getting locked out do to admin error.
> Unfortunately it means all user class accounts effects cannot be locked
> out in the case of malicious login attempts.  We're still looking for a
> better solution and will post any new findings.  Lee - I will take a look
> at the dsmgmt options as well - thanks.
> Jim
>
>
> "Lee Flight" <l**@le.ac.uk-nospam> wrote in message
> news:e%23RD8poLGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>>
>> AFAIK the only component of password policy that can be suspended per
>> user is account expiry (msDS-UserDontExpirePassword, very useful
>> if you have long-lived service accounts for which you can set complex
>> passwords).
>>
>> Beyond that you can exclude the ADAM instance from all password policy
>> (ADAMDisablePasswordPolicies in the "configurable setting" submenu in
>> dsmgmt).
>>
>> Another possibility is that you set the password policy in the local
>> security
>> policy of the ADAM instance server to the values you want but those will
>> only be used if the server is not getting domain policy.
>>
>> Lee Flight
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jims" <b**@neocasa.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23q8tqUnLGHA.2812@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Is there any way to exclude individual ADAM user class accounts from the
>>> AD domain account lockout policy?  Can this be accomplished on a per
>>> user basis or would we need to exclude the ADAM server from the Active
>>> Directory domain group policy?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Author
11 Feb 2006 12:40 AM
Lee Flight
Thinking about this a little further if the lockout policy at
the OU level does the trick I would not be too worried
about the lack of lockout for other accounts as deliberately
locking out the accounts as a DOS attack is probably just as
bad and if you are logging login failures in your security
policy these attacks should be detectable. Having a good
password complexity/history regime would mitigate my
concern over lack of lockout further.

Lee Flight


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"Lee Flight" <l**@le.ac.uk-nospam> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> I had never tried setting the account lockout at the OU as that applies
> only to local accounts on the computer in the OU right? So you are
> saying that means ADAM accounts in this case...I'll give it a try.
>
> FWIW I have been leaning toward the idea that a dedicated
> (user) objectclass would be useful for certain roles e.g. native ADAM
> administrators and some service accounts.
>
> Thanks,
> Lee Flight
>
> "Jims" <b**@neocasa.net> wrote in message
> news:%23dbbU%23oLGHA.1124@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> For the time being we have added our ADAM servers to a new OU and created
>> a GPO with a lockout setting of 999 attempts in 1 minute.  The GPO is
>> applied after the domain gpo so this resolves our highest priority issue
>> of critical service accounts getting locked out do to admin error.
>> Unfortunately it means all user class accounts effects cannot be locked
>> out in the case of malicious login attempts.  We're still looking for a
>> better solution and will post any new findings.  Lee - I will take a look
>> at the dsmgmt options as well - thanks.
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> "Lee Flight" <l**@le.ac.uk-nospam> wrote in message
>> news:e%23RD8poLGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> AFAIK the only component of password policy that can be suspended per
>>> user is account expiry (msDS-UserDontExpirePassword, very useful
>>> if you have long-lived service accounts for which you can set complex
>>> passwords).
>>>
>>> Beyond that you can exclude the ADAM instance from all password policy
>>> (ADAMDisablePasswordPolicies in the "configurable setting" submenu in
>>> dsmgmt).
>>>
>>> Another possibility is that you set the password policy in the local
>>> security
>>> policy of the ADAM instance server to the values you want but those will
>>> only be used if the server is not getting domain policy.
>>>
>>> Lee Flight
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jims" <b**@neocasa.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23q8tqUnLGHA.2812@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is there any way to exclude individual ADAM user class accounts from
>>>> the AD domain account lockout policy?  Can this be accomplished on a
>>>> per user basis or would we need to exclude the ADAM server from the
>>>> Active Directory domain group policy?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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