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Slow logon when appying personal settings

Author
27 Jan 2006 6:18 PM
Johnny Rio
I've read numerous post about slow logons mainly dealing with DNS issues and
other DNS entries in the network settings.  In my W2k3 Server environment,
all PCs are set to obtain IP and DNS info automatically.  No other DNS
entries on the PCs.  I have a DC and a separate file server (all W2k3
servers).

The typical logon takes about 1 to 2 minutes to "apply your personal
settings."  Any way to speed this up?

Author
27 Jan 2006 11:56 PM
Ace Fekay [MVP]
In news:4332BD1B-C449-4A68-B681-41F2B12CD605@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <Johnny***@discussions.microsoft.com> stated, which I commented
on below:
> I've read numerous post about slow logons mainly dealing with DNS
> issues and other DNS entries in the network settings.  In my W2k3
> Server environment, all PCs are set to obtain IP and DNS info
> automatically.  No other DNS entries on the PCs.  I have a DC and a
> separate file server (all W2k3 servers).
>
> The typical logon takes about 1 to 2 minutes to "apply your personal
> settings."  Any way to speed this up?

When you say:
"In my W2k3
> Server environment, all PCs are set to obtain IP and DNS info
> automatically.  No other DNS entries on the PCs"

Does that mean the ONLY DNS addresses you see on a client are the DC(s) only
and no ISP's? The outside DNS addresses WILL cause this since whatever other
DNS is configured, whether static or DHCP acquired, doesn't have AD's
information.

Keep in mind, AD stores it's resource and services locations in the form of
SRV records that a client will query. If using an outside DNS address, that
DNS doesn't have info about your internal private AD domain. All AD machines
(DCs, clients and member servers) must only use the internal DNS server(s)
that host the AD zone name.

--
Ace

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Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
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Author
30 Jan 2006 6:50 PM
Johnny Rio
First off, thanks Ace for replying to all my posts.

Under my TCP/IP properties, I do not have any specific entries.  Everything
is set to automatic.  No entries to DNS servers or ISPs.  Do I need to
specify my preferred DNS server as my DC under the General tab.  What about
the Alt. Config. tab?

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"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

> In news:4332BD1B-C449-4A68-B681-41F2B12CD605@microsoft.com,
> Johnny Rio <Johnny***@discussions.microsoft.com> stated, which I commented
> on below:
> > I've read numerous post about slow logons mainly dealing with DNS
> > issues and other DNS entries in the network settings.  In my W2k3
> > Server environment, all PCs are set to obtain IP and DNS info
> > automatically.  No other DNS entries on the PCs.  I have a DC and a
> > separate file server (all W2k3 servers).
> >
> > The typical logon takes about 1 to 2 minutes to "apply your personal
> > settings."  Any way to speed this up?
>
> When you say:
> "In my W2k3
> > Server environment, all PCs are set to obtain IP and DNS info
> > automatically.  No other DNS entries on the PCs"
>
> Does that mean the ONLY DNS addresses you see on a client are the DC(s) only
> and no ISP's? The outside DNS addresses WILL cause this since whatever other
> DNS is configured, whether static or DHCP acquired, doesn't have AD's
> information.
>
> Keep in mind, AD stores it's resource and services locations in the form of
> SRV records that a client will query. If using an outside DNS address, that
> DNS doesn't have info about your internal private AD domain. All AD machines
> (DCs, clients and member servers) must only use the internal DNS server(s)
> that host the AD zone name.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> If you are having difficulty in reading or finding responses to your post,
> instead of the website you are using, if I may suggest to use OEx (Outlook
> Express or any other newsreader of your choosing), and configure a newsgroup
> account, pointing to news.microsoft.com. This is a direct link into the
> Microsoft Public Newsgroups, and it is FREE and DOES NOT require a Usenet
> account with your ISP. With OEx, you can easily find your post, track
> threads, cross-post, and sort by date, poster's name, watched threads or
> subject.
>
> Not sure how? It's easy:
> How to Configure OEx for Internet News
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=171164
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Server Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile.
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations.
> =================================
>
>
>
Author
31 Jan 2006 12:24 AM
Ace Fekay [MVP]
In news:A4B666E2-0C6C-43D2-8AC0-8A9D2C9EA4CE@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <Johnny***@discussions.microsoft.com> stated, which I commented
on below:
> First off, thanks Ace for replying to all my posts.
>
> Under my TCP/IP properties, I do not have any specific entries.
> Everything is set to automatic.  No entries to DNS servers or ISPs.
> Do I need to specify my preferred DNS server as my DC under the
> General tab.  What about the Alt. Config. tab?

If it's automatic (DHCP), then go to your DHCP server, assumingly the DC,
look at DHCP Option 006 (either Server or Global Option), and make sure the
IP is ONLY the DC's DNS.

Ace
Author
31 Jan 2006 12:30 AM
Ace Fekay [MVP]
In news:A4B666E2-0C6C-43D2-8AC0-8A9D2C9EA4CE@microsoft.com,
Johnny Rio <Johnny***@discussions.microsoft.com> stated, which I commented
on below:
> First off, thanks Ace for replying to all my posts.
>
> Under my TCP/IP properties, I do not have any specific entries.
> Everything is set to automatic.  No entries to DNS servers or ISPs.
> Do I need to specify my preferred DNS server as my DC under the
> General tab.  What about the Alt. Config. tab?

Forgot to mention, first no prob about answering your posts. Second, are you
familiar with this article? This will show you how to configure a forwarder
for more efficient internet resolution instead of your own DNS using the
Root hints:

323380 - HOW TO Configure DNS for Internet Access in Windows Server 2003
(forwarding) :
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=323380


Read this too, lot's of goodies.
291382 - Frequently asked questions about Windows 2000 DNS and Windows
Server 2003 DNS
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;291382

Ace