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Migrate users from Existing Windows 2003 Domain to new 2008 Domain

Author
8 Jul 2009 5:36 PM
Tom
We have users on an existing Windows 2003 Domain, the company would like to
move users to a new 2008 Domain (new AD as they want to change the domain
name) What is the best way to go about this?

Author
8 Jul 2009 7:33 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
"Tom" <T**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B95AF661-CDD8-4525-8C82-F9AF0447546A@microsoft.com...
> We have users on an existing Windows 2003 Domain, the company would like to
> move users to a new 2008 Domain (new AD as they want to change the domain
> name) What is the best way to go about this?


ADMT is the solution. If Exchange is involved, it's a bit more complicated.
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For 2008 (run ADMT 3.1 on the 2008 side):

ADMT v3.1 Guide: Migrating and Restructuring Active Directory Domains
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=6D710919-1BA5-41CA-B2F3-C11BCB4857AF&displaylang=en

Active Directory Migration Tool version 3.1
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=AE279D01-7DCA-413C-A9D2-B42DFB746059&displaylang=en

Password Export Server version 3.1 (x86)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=F0D03C3C-4757-40FD-8306-68079BA9C773&displaylang=en

Password Export Server version 3.1 (x64)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=5B4E5C61-1C00-4DA7-9C0D-130200AED21A&displaylang=en

Domain Migration Cookbook - Index and Cover:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/deploy/cookbook/cookintr.mspx

ADMT requires a two way trust between the forests - Create a trust between the two forests
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc780479.aspx


If Exchange is involved:

If Exchange 2003 is involved, you can use the Exmerge tool.

If Exchange 2007 is involved, you would need to use the MoveMailbox method from the source org to the target org after migrating user accounts.

This is a weak overview of the mailbox move:
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/inter-forest-exchange-migration-from-exchange-2003-to-exchange-2007/

How to Move a Mailbox Across Forests
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa997145.aspx

AD and Exchange Consolidation
http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/ad-and-exchange-consolidation/

Inter-Forest Migration/Consolidation
http://forums.techarena.in/active-directory/1135548.htm

Deciding to Consolidate Exchange Messaging Systems
http://technet.microsoft.com/hi-in/library/bb124206(en-us,EXCHG.65).aspx

Server Consolidation Recommendations
http://technet.microsoft.com/hi-in/library/aa998499(en-us,EXCHG.65).aspx

If using the Quest tools (recommended), read this for an idea of what to expect, time per GB, etc
Thread: QMM throughput question
http://migration.inside.quest.com/thread.jspa?messageID=27243
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Author
9 Jul 2009 6:15 AM
Florian Frommherz [MVP]
Howdie!

Tom schrieb:
> We have users on an existing Windows 2003 Domain, the company would like to
> move users to a new 2008 Domain (new AD as they want to change the domain
> name) What is the best way to go about this?

I second Ace's suggestions. ADMT is the way to go. If there's project
bugdet left, you might also want to look into the Quest Migration tools
- they're somewhat easier to use. Nonetheless, ADMT is free and works fine.

Florian
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Author
9 Jul 2009 7:03 AM
Syed Khairuddin
Hello Florian and Ace,

            Thanks for the comments. How abt introducing windows 2008
server as ADC, tranfering the roles from windows 2003 to 2008 and then
renaming the windows 2008 domain.

I know its bit lenghty procedure. Please comment how far its good.

Thanks
Author
9 Jul 2009 7:25 AM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Syed,

Depending on your forest setup you have this limitations with renaming:

In a Windows Server 2003 forest, you cannot:
.    Change which domain is the forest root domain. Changing the DNS or the
NetBIOS name of the forest root domain, or both, is supported.
.    Drop domains from the forest or add domains to the forest. The number of
domains in the forest before and after the rename/restructure operation must
remain the same.
.    Rename a domain with the same name that another domain gave up in a single
forest restructure operation.


And as you said the procedure is not that easy, all DCs have to be rebooted
multiple times. ADMT will run parallel and the users are effected a bit less
then using domain rename.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Hello Florian and Ace,
>
> Thanks for the comments. How abt introducing windows 2008
> server as ADC, tranfering the roles from windows 2003 to 2008 and then
> renaming the windows 2008 domain.
>
> I know its bit lenghty procedure. Please comment how far its good.
>
> Thanks
>
Author
9 Jul 2009 9:44 AM
Syed Khairuddin
Hello Meinolf,

          Thanks I was expecting this answer.

Regards
Syed


On Jul 9, 10:25 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
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> Hello Syed,
>
> Depending on your forest setup you have this limitations with renaming:
>
> In a Windows Server 2003 forest, you cannot:
>         Change which domain is the forest root domain. Changing the DNS or the
> NetBIOS name of the forest root domain, or both, is supported.
>         Drop domains from the forest or add domains to the forest.. The number of
> domains in the forest before and after the rename/restructure operation must
> remain the same.
>         Rename a domain with the same name that another domain gave up in a single
> forest restructure operation.
>
> And as you said the procedure is not that easy, all DCs have to be rebooted
> multiple times. ADMT will run parallel and the users are effected a bit less
> then using domain rename.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>
> > Hello Florian and Ace,
>
> > Thanks for the comments. How abt introducing windows 2008
> > server as ADC, tranfering the roles from windows 2003 to 2008 and then
> > renaming the windows 2008 domain.
>
> > I know its bit lenghty procedure. Please comment how far its good.
>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
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Author
9 Jul 2009 7:09 AM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello tom,

ADMT as already mentioned will do it. So if you use Exchange please post
the version you have. For the new domain name i would not choose the same
name as for external, if you have one.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> We have users on an existing Windows 2003 Domain, the company would
> like to move users to a new 2008 Domain (new AD as they want to change
> the domain name) What is the best way to go about this?
>
Author
9 Jul 2009 12:27 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
I agree with the others on ADMT just make sure to use the latest release
ADMT v 3.1.  Previous versions do not support Windows 2008.

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"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:ff16fb66294a68cbce8c115bcd36@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello tom,
>
> ADMT as already mentioned will do it. So if you use Exchange please post
> the version you have. For the new domain name i would not choose the same
> name as for external, if you have one.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> We have users on an existing Windows 2003 Domain, the company would
>> like to move users to a new 2008 Domain (new AD as they want to change
>> the domain name) What is the best way to go about this?
>>
>
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