> Hello all
>
> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
> "wbadmin enable backup
> -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical
> -schedule:06:00"
>
> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot
> the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start systemstaterecovery
> -version #" i get the below error message
>
> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>
> Thanks
>

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:ff16fb6628b1d8cbc838fe943fc7@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello Sawyer,
>
> If i am not wrong the backup you have is not usable for restoring a single
> AD object. You have taken a backup of a complete volume instead of the
> system state and you can not extract the system state from it.
>
> To have a system state backup this is what you have use:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/library/cc742035(WS.10).aspx
>
> "-allCritical" is just a specification to make sure the volume can be
> backed up which CONTAINS the system state
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Hello all
>>
>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
>> "wbadmin enable backup
>> -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical
>> -schedule:06:00"
>>
>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot
>> the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start systemstaterecovery
>> -version #" i get the below error message
>>
>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>

> Ok i can understand this, however i couldnt even do a systemstate
> restore, i
> would get the error message i posted as soon as i tried to do a
> restore of
> the systemstate, so at this point i wasnt doing an athoritative
> restore,
> just trying to do a system state restore. If im understanding you
> correctly
> the -allcritical switch doesnt backup the systemstate, or it does but
> i cant
> do a restore of the systemstate with this type of backup? Still a bit
> confused
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb6628b1d8cbc838fe943fc7@msnews.microsoft.com...
>> Hello Sawyer,
>>
>> If i am not wrong the backup you have is not usable for restoring a
>> single AD object. You have taken a backup of a complete volume
>> instead of the system state and you can not extract the system state
>> from it.
>>
>> To have a system state backup this is what you have use:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/library/cc742035(WS.10).aspx
>>
>> "-allCritical" is just a specification to make sure the volume can be
>> backed up which CONTAINS the system state
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin
>>> tool "wbadmin enable backup
>>> -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical
>>> -schedule:06:00"
>>>
>>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i
>>> reboot the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start
>>> systemstaterecovery -version #" i get the below error message
>>>
>>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

"Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:ff16fb6628c1b8cbc89bd54bf23a@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Hello Family,
>
> You have taken a full volume backup, that's all. Even if the system state
> is in that volume, i think you are not able to extract it, so basically
> you DON'T have a system state backup.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Ok i can understand this, however i couldnt even do a systemstate
>> restore, i
>> would get the error message i posted as soon as i tried to do a
>> restore of
>> the systemstate, so at this point i wasnt doing an athoritative
>> restore,
>> just trying to do a system state restore. If im understanding you
>> correctly
>> the -allcritical switch doesnt backup the systemstate, or it does but
>> i cant
>> do a restore of the systemstate with this type of backup? Still a bit
>> confused
>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>> news:ff16fb6628b1d8cbc838fe943fc7@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>> Hello Sawyer,
>>>
>>> If i am not wrong the backup you have is not usable for restoring a
>>> single AD object. You have taken a backup of a complete volume
>>> instead of the system state and you can not extract the system state
>>> from it.
>>>
>>> To have a system state backup this is what you have use:
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/library/cc742035(WS.10).aspx
>>>
>>> "-allCritical" is just a specification to make sure the volume can be
>>> backed up which CONTAINS the system state
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin
>>>> tool "wbadmin enable backup
>>>> -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical
>>>> -schedule:06:00"
>>>>
>>>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>>>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i
>>>> reboot the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start
>>>> systemstaterecovery -version #" i get the below error message
>>>>
>>>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>>>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>
>

> I think its something else, because i ran the same wbadmin backup
> command on all my 2008 DC's. Below is the output when i run wbadmin
> get versions on both 2008 boxes. I was able to do a systemstate
> restore and an authorative restore using backup #2, so its got to be
> something else
>
> #1 Backup time: 6/30/2009 6:00 AM
> Backup target: Fixed Disk labeled IRV-EDC 2009_02_11 03:01
> DISK_01(\\?\Volume{5c
> bc0bb6-e83b-11dd-b611-001143e775a1})
> Version identifier: 6/30/2009-13:00
> Can Recover: Volume(s), File(s), Application(s), Bare Metal Recovery,
> System
> State
> Could not do a systemstate restore of the DC using this backup
> _____________________________________________________________________
>
> #2 Backup time: 6/30/2009 10:00 AM
> Backup target: Fixed Disk labeled irv-edc 2009_05_12 02:44
> DISK_01(\\?\Volume{b1
> 2e2306-3e9c-11de-9b1b-0013724ec8c4})
> Version identifier: 06/30/2009-17:00
> Can Recover: Volume(s), File(s), Application(s), Bare Metal Recovery,
> System
> State
> Systemstate recover was succesful and i was also able to do an
> athoritative restore using this backup.
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb6628c1b8cbc89bd54bf23a@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello Family,
>>
>> You have taken a full volume backup, that's all. Even if the system
>> state is in that volume, i think you are not able to extract it, so
>> basically you DON'T have a system state backup.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Ok i can understand this, however i couldnt even do a systemstate
>>> restore, i
>>> would get the error message i posted as soon as i tried to do a
>>> restore of
>>> the systemstate, so at this point i wasnt doing an athoritative
>>> restore,
>>> just trying to do a system state restore. If im understanding you
>>> correctly
>>> the -allcritical switch doesnt backup the systemstate, or it does
>>> but
>>> i cant
>>> do a restore of the systemstate with this type of backup? Still a
>>> bit
>>> confused
>>> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:ff16fb6628b1d8cbc838fe943fc7@msnews.microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello Sawyer,
>>>>
>>>> If i am not wrong the backup you have is not usable for restoring a
>>>> single AD object. You have taken a backup of a complete volume
>>>> instead of the system state and you can not extract the system
>>>> state from it.
>>>>
>>>> To have a system state backup this is what you have use:
>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/de-de/library/cc742035(WS.10).aspx
>>>>
>>>> "-allCritical" is just a specification to make sure the volume can
>>>> be backed up which CONTAINS the system state
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> Hello all
>>>>>
>>>>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin
>>>>> tool "wbadmin enable backup
>>>>> -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical
>>>>> -schedule:06:00"
>>>>>
>>>>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>>>>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i
>>>>> reboot the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start
>>>>> systemstaterecovery -version #" i get the below error message
>>>>>
>>>>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>>>>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>

"Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2B72250D-7865-4B4B-8216-1CAA242C7F96@microsoft.com...
> Hello all
>
> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
> "wbadmin enable
> backup -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical -schedule:06:00"
>
> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine without
> errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot the DC into
> DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start systemstaterecovery -version #" i get
> the below error message
>
> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>
> Thanks

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
news:uSqsZGx%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You probably already know this but...
>
> Did you authenticate with an Id that is a member of the Backup Operators
> Group? My guess is this is a security issue, what I am not sure.  I Bing'd
> (www.bing.com) it and others that have had this similar issues all
> pointing towards ACE.
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2B72250D-7865-4B4B-8216-1CAA242C7F96@microsoft.com...
>> Hello all
>>
>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
>> "wbadmin enable
>> backup -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical -schedule:06:00"
>>
>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot the
>> DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start systemstaterecovery -version #"
>> i get the below error message
>>
>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>

"Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:FF55078B-2FE3-4024-97AF-FF1DACB3D444@microsoft.com...
>I noticed that, my account is in the domain admins schema and enterprise
>admins group. Like i said before this works on one 2008 DC. I didnt set any
>special ACE rights for my account
> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
> news:uSqsZGx%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You probably already know this but...
>>
>> Did you authenticate with an Id that is a member of the Backup Operators
>> Group? My guess is this is a security issue, what I am not sure.  I
>> Bing'd (www.bing.com) it and others that have had this similar issues all
>> pointing towards ACE.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Bergson
>> MVP - Directory Services
>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>>
>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>
>> "Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2B72250D-7865-4B4B-8216-1CAA242C7F96@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
>>> "wbadmin enable
>>> backup -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical -schedule:06:00"
>>>
>>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot
>>> the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start
>>> systemstaterecovery -version #" i get the below error message
>>>
>>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
news:ehrchO1%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> This is going to be very speicifc to something in your setup (note this is
> a WAG).  It could be you don't have your DC in the Domain Controllers OU,
> etc...  I don't know your topology/layout of your system, but that would
> be my suspect if I had to figure it out.
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FF55078B-2FE3-4024-97AF-FF1DACB3D444@microsoft.com...
>>I noticed that, my account is in the domain admins schema and enterprise
>>admins group. Like i said before this works on one 2008 DC. I didnt set
>>any special ACE rights for my account
>> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
>> news:uSqsZGx%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> You probably already know this but...
>>>
>>> Did you authenticate with an Id that is a member of the Backup Operators
>>> Group? My guess is this is a security issue, what I am not sure.  I
>>> Bing'd (www.bing.com) it and others that have had this similar issues
>>> all pointing towards ACE.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Bergson
>>> MVP - Directory Services
>>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>>>
>>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>>
>>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
>>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>>
>>> "Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:2B72250D-7865-4B4B-8216-1CAA242C7F96@microsoft.com...
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
>>>> "wbadmin enable
>>>> backup -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical -schedule:06:00"
>>>>
>>>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>>>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot
>>>> the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start
>>>> systemstaterecovery -version #" i get the below error message
>>>>
>>>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>>>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

"Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:FF55078B-2FE3-4024-97AF-FF1DACB3D444@microsoft.com...
>I noticed that, my account is in the domain admins schema and enterprise
>admins group. Like i said before this works on one 2008 DC. I didnt set any
>special ACE rights for my account
> "Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" <pbbergs@no_spammsn.com> wrote in message
> news:uSqsZGx%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> You probably already know this but...
>>
>> Did you authenticate with an Id that is a member of the Backup Operators
>> Group? My guess is this is a security issue, what I am not sure.  I
>> Bing'd (www.bing.com) it and others that have had this similar issues all
>> pointing towards ACE.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Bergson
>> MVP - Directory Services
>> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
>> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>> Microsoft's Thrive IT Pro of the Month - June 2009
>>
>> http://www.pbbergs.com
>>
>> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
>> posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>>
>> "Sawyer" <Gm***@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2B72250D-7865-4B4B-8216-1CAA242C7F96@microsoft.com...
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> I have enabled systemstate backups of my DC by using the wbadmin tool
>>> "wbadmin enable
>>> backup -addtarget:{00000081-0000-0000-0000-000000000000} -allcritical -schedule:06:00"
>>>
>>> from looking at the event logs for these backups the job runs fine
>>> without errors. Now i need to restore an AD object, and when i reboot
>>> the DC into DSRM mode and run  "Wbadmin start
>>> systemstaterecovery -version #" i get the below error message
>>>
>>> "system writer is not found in the backup" and it wont let me do a
>>> restore. how can i fix this and what could be the cause?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>