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26 Mar 2009 10:21 AM
Dave
NEWBIE ALERT
Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.

Thanks for your help.

Author
26 Mar 2009 11:17 AM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello dave,

Servers especially Domain controllers should always have fixed ip addresses
and not DHCP. Give it a fixed ip address instead.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> NEWBIE ALERT
> Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
> IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
> Thanks for your help.
>
Author
26 Mar 2009 1:34 PM
Dave
Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.  The DC does have a fixed IP.
It's the desktop that I joined to the domain that won't pull a local
IP.  If it matters, the desktop was recently upgraded to Vista
Ultimate from Vista Home Basic.

Thanks for the quick response.



On Mar 26, 6:17 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
wrote:
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> Hello dave,
>
> Servers especially Domain controllers should always have fixed ip addresses
> and not DHCP. Give it a fixed ip address instead.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>
> > NEWBIE ALERT
> > Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
> > joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
> > IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
> > it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
> > I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
> > Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Author
26 Mar 2009 1:41 PM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello dave,

Is the DHCP server authoriyed in AD and is the scope on the DHCP server activated?
Rightclick the servername in the DHCP management console and choose autorize
and on the scope rightclick and choose Activate.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.  The DC does have a fixed IP.
> It's the desktop that I joined to the domain that won't pull a local
> IP.  If it matters, the desktop was recently upgraded to Vista
> Ultimate from Vista Home Basic.
>
> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> On Mar 26, 6:17 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello dave,
>>
>> Servers especially Domain controllers should always have fixed ip
>> addresses and not DHCP. Give it a fixed ip address instead.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> NEWBIE ALERT
>>> Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
>>> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
>>> IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
>>> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
>>> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
>>> Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -
>> - Show quoted text -
>>
Author
26 Mar 2009 2:07 PM
Dave
Yes to both questions.



On Mar 26, 8:41 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
wrote:
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> Hello dave,
>
> Is the DHCP server authoriyed in AD and is the scope on the DHCP server activated?
> Rightclick the servername in the DHCP management console and choose autorize
> and on the scope rightclick and choose Activate.
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>
> > Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.  The DC does have a fixed IP.
> > It's the desktop that I joined to the domain that won't pull a local
> > IP.  If it matters, the desktop was recently upgraded to Vista
> > Ultimate from Vista Home Basic.
>
> > Thanks for the quick response.
>
> > On Mar 26, 6:17 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Hello dave,
>
> >> Servers especially Domain controllers should always have fixed ip
> >> addresses and not DHCP. Give it a fixed ip address instead.
>
> >> Best regards
>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> NEWBIE ALERT
> >>> Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
> >>> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
> >>> IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
> >>> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
> >>> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
> >>> Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Author
26 Mar 2009 2:13 PM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello dave,

If the client get a fixed ip you can ping the server without any problem
by ip address, computername and FQDN?

Are both machines on the same subnet or is there a router between them?

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Yes to both questions.
>
> On Mar 26, 8:41 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello dave,
>>
>> Is the DHCP server authoriyed in AD and is the scope on the DHCP
>> server activated?
>> Rightclick the servername in the DHCP management console and choose
>> autorize
>> and on the scope rightclick and choose Activate.
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers
>> no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.  The DC does have a fixed
>>> IP. It's the desktop that I joined to the domain that won't pull a
>>> local IP.  If it matters, the desktop was recently upgraded to Vista
>>> Ultimate from Vista Home Basic.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the quick response.
>>>
>>> On Mar 26, 6:17 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello dave,
>>>>
>>>> Servers especially Domain controllers should always have fixed ip
>>>> addresses and not DHCP. Give it a fixed ip address instead.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers
>>>> no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> NEWBIE ALERT
>>>>> Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I
>>>>> just
>>>>> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling
>>>>> an
>>>>> IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting
>>>>> though
>>>>> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause
>>>>> this?
>>>>> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to
>>>>> start.
>>>>> Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>>
Author
26 Mar 2009 2:27 PM
Dave
If I understand your post, put a static IP on the work station to see
if we can ping.  I'll try that.  I don't understand the "Computername
and FQDN" statement.  Both machines and router are on the same Subnet.











On Mar 26, 9:13 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
wrote:
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> Hello dave,
>
> If the client get a fixed ip you can ping the server without any problem
> by ip address, computername and FQDN?
>
> Are both machines on the same subnet or is there a router between them?
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
> no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>
>
> > Yes to both questions.
>
> > On Mar 26, 8:41 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Hello dave,
>
> >> Is the DHCP server authoriyed in AD and is the scope on the DHCP
> >> server activated?
> >> Rightclick the servername in the DHCP management console and choose
> >> autorize
> >> and on the scope rightclick and choose Activate.
> >> Best regards
>
> >> Meinolf Weber
> >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> >> confers
> >> no rights.
> >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>> Sorry if my original post wasn't clear.  The DC does have a fixed
> >>> IP. It's the desktop that I joined to the domain that won't pull a
> >>> local IP.  If it matters, the desktop was recently upgraded to Vista
> >>> Ultimate from Vista Home Basic.
>
> >>> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> >>> On Mar 26, 6:17 am, Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> Hello dave,
>
> >>>> Servers especially Domain controllers should always have fixed ip
> >>>> addresses and not DHCP. Give it a fixed ip address instead.
>
> >>>> Best regards
>
> >>>> Meinolf Weber
> >>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> >>>> and
> >>>> confers
> >>>> no rights.
> >>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> >>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!!http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
> >>>>> NEWBIE ALERT
> >>>>> Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I
> >>>>> just
> >>>>> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling
> >>>>> an
> >>>>> IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting
> >>>>> though
> >>>>> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause
> >>>>> this?
> >>>>> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to
> >>>>> start.
> >>>>> Thanks for your help.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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Author
26 Mar 2009 4:11 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
"Dave" <Dave.Burk***@Jacobs.com> wrote in message
news:f3cd1bbc-1c41-4231-94b3-08eb78706cef@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> NEWBIE ALERT
> Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
> IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
>
> Thanks for your help.

Dave,

You cannot have two DHCP servers on the same subnet unless the scope is
split. Do you have a split scope? If not, . they will conflict. When a DHCP
client broadcasts out for a DHCP server and there are more than one DHCP
service running, the faster one will respond resulting in first come, first
serve.

I would suggest to disable the DHCP service on the router. Besides, the
router cannot support many DNS/DHCP functions such as DNS Dynamic
Registration and Option 081.

--
Ace

This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
confers no rights.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging, MCT
Microsoft Certified Trainer
ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
Author
26 Mar 2009 7:06 PM
Dave
Good Call Ace!  That worked.  One more question now.  Why wouldn't I
be able to ping a client machine from the server when I can ping the
server from the client machine?



On Mar 26, 11:11 am, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
<firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> "Dave" <Dave.Burk***@Jacobs.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f3cd1bbc-1c41-4231-94b3-08eb78706cef@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>
> > NEWBIE ALERT
> > Yes I'm new at this.  I just setup a 2008 server running AD.  I just
> > joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
> > IP from the router.  It joined successfully.  After rebooting though
> > it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP.  What might cause this?
> > I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
>
> > Thanks for your help.
>
> Dave,
>
> You cannot have two DHCP servers on the same subnet unless the scope is
> split. Do you have a split scope? If not, . they will conflict. When a DHCP
> client broadcasts out for a DHCP server and there are more than one DHCP
> service running, the faster one will respond resulting in first come, first
> serve.
>
> I would suggest to disable the DHCP service on the router. Besides, the
> router cannot support many DNS/DHCP functions such as DNS Dynamic
> Registration and Option 081.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging, MCT
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> checkhttp://support.microsoft.comfor regional support phone numbers.
Author
27 Mar 2009 5:21 AM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:5eab87b0-3cb8-4bb9-b2fa-712fcd4a09ed@p11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com,
Dave <Dave.Burk***@Jacobs.com>, posted the following:
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> Good Call Ace!  That worked.  One more question now.  Why wouldn't I
> be able to ping a client machine from the server when I can ping the
> server from the client machine?
>
>
>
> On Mar 26, 11:11 am, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
> <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Dave" <Dave.Burk***@Jacobs.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f3cd1bbc-1c41-4231-94b3-08eb78706cef@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> NEWBIE ALERT
>>> Yes I'm new at this. I just setup a 2008 server running AD. I just
>>> joined my first machine to the domain that was originally pulling an
>>> IP from the router. It joined successfully. After rebooting though
>>> it won't pull an IP from the server's DHCP. What might cause this?
>>> I'm guessing something on the server, just not sure where to start.
>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> You cannot have two DHCP servers on the same subnet unless the scope
>> is split. Do you have a split scope? If not, . they will conflict.
>> When a DHCP client broadcasts out for a DHCP server and there are
>> more than one DHCP service running, the faster one will respond
>> resulting in first come, first serve.
>>
>> I would suggest to disable the DHCP service on the router. Besides,
>> the router cannot support many DNS/DHCP functions such as DNS Dynamic
>> Registration and Option 081.
>>
>> --
>> Ace
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
>> confers no rights.
>>
>> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging, MCT
>> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>> ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org
>>
>> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly.
>> Please checkhttp://support.microsoft.comfor regional support phone
>> numbers.


That opens up many questions concerning configuration, how you are pinging
(single name, FQDN, etc), is WINS installed, are you only using the internal
DNS server for all DCs, servers and client machines or is there an ISP's DNS
address in IP properties? (Hopefully you are only using your internakl DNS
servers, no ISPs).

the client machine joined to the domain?
What is the Primary DNS Suffix on the server?
How about the client? Is it registered in DNS?

Post an unedited ipconfig /all from the server and from the client. This
should give me a good idea of what is going on. It may be sometihng simple
as the search sufffix doesn';t match, using an ISP's DNS, not joined, not
registered in DNS, etc.

Ace