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Author
19 Mar 2009 7:00 PM
John
I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)

I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.

Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain controllers
in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and services,
the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active directory
sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active directory
sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created additional
root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites and
services
of child domain???

What am I missing?

Author
19 Mar 2009 7:32 PM
Danny Sanders
> I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.


If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is a
member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now this
is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your test
enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they are
no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
"connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have the
parent child relationship.

hth
DDS

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"John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
>I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
> In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
> domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
> in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>
> I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>
> Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
> controllers
> in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
> services,
> the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
> directory
> sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
> directory
> sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
> additional
> root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites and
> services
> of child domain???
>
> What am I missing?
>
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Author
19 Mar 2009 7:43 PM
Jane
Thank you and sorry about the misunderstanding.

> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.

> I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> > in the production envir.

I mean I run dcpromo on these two member servers and make them root doamin
controller and child domain controller.

It should work, right.  any steps I am missing?









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"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>
>
> If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is a
> member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now this
> is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your test
> enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they are
> no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
> "connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have the
> parent child relationship.
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
> >I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
> > In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
> > domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
> > in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
> >
> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
> >
> > Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
> > controllers
> > in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
> > services,
> > the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
> > directory
> > sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
> > directory
> > sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
> > additional
> > root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites and
> > services
> > of child domain???
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
>
Author
19 Mar 2009 8:25 PM
Danny Sanders
> It should work, right.  any steps I am missing?

Never tried it but I think it should work. Did you set up DNS in your test
enviornment?


hth
DDS

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"Jane" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F66EAB1C-4431-4CF4-8870-9C2A8911402D@microsoft.com...
> Thank you and sorry about the misunderstanding.
>
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>
>> I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.
>
> I mean I run dcpromo on these two member servers and make them root doamin
> controller and child domain controller.
>
> It should work, right.  any steps I am missing?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>>
>>
>> If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is
>> a
>> member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now
>> this
>> is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your
>> test
>> enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they
>> are
>> no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
>> "connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have
>> the
>> parent child relationship.
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>> "John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
>> >I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
>> > In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
>> > domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
>> > in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>> >
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>> >
>> > Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
>> > controllers
>> > in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
>> > services,
>> > the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
>> > additional
>> > root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites
>> > and
>> > services
>> > of child domain???
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>> >
>>
Author
19 Mar 2009 9:16 PM
John
Thank you.

Probably, by mistae I metadata cleanup the wrong domain controller.

Now, I can see the domain controller shows LostandFindConfig container of
adsiedit.msc.

If I use adsiedit.msc and I can see several objets in the CN=NTDS Settings,
CN=LostandFoundConfig, CN=Configuration, DC=company,dc=local,

Do you know whether there is a way to recover from LostAndFoundConfig?

Thank you!





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"Danny Sanders" wrote:

> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>
>
> If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is a
> member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now this
> is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your test
> enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they are
> no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
> "connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have the
> parent child relationship.
>
> hth
> DDS
>
> "John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
> >I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
> > In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
> > domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
> > in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
> >
> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
> >
> > Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
> > controllers
> > in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
> > services,
> > the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
> > directory
> > sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
> > directory
> > sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
> > additional
> > root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites and
> > services
> > of child domain???
> >
> > What am I missing?
> >
>
Author
19 Mar 2009 9:40 PM
Danny Sanders
Not sure if you can restore them from that container. Everything I see is
talking about deleting them.


hth
DDS

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"John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:063D83BB-5371-4FC0-9638-28402F14A5B8@microsoft.com...
> Thank you.
>
> Probably, by mistae I metadata cleanup the wrong domain controller.
>
> Now, I can see the domain controller shows LostandFindConfig container of
> adsiedit.msc.
>
> If I use adsiedit.msc and I can see several objets in the CN=NTDS
> Settings,
> CN=LostandFoundConfig, CN=Configuration, DC=company,dc=local,
>
> Do you know whether there is a way to recover from LostAndFoundConfig?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>>
>>
>> If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is
>> a
>> member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now
>> this
>> is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your
>> test
>> enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they
>> are
>> no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
>> "connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have
>> the
>> parent child relationship.
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>> "John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
>> >I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
>> > In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
>> > domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
>> > in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>> >
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>> >
>> > Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
>> > controllers
>> > in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
>> > services,
>> > the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
>> > additional
>> > root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites
>> > and
>> > services
>> > of child domain???
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>> >
>>
Author
20 Mar 2009 12:27 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
If you did a metadata cleanup on the wrong DC, you won;t be able to recover
it other than through tape restore.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


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"John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:063D83BB-5371-4FC0-9638-28402F14A5B8@microsoft.com...
> Thank you.
>
> Probably, by mistae I metadata cleanup the wrong domain controller.
>
> Now, I can see the domain controller shows LostandFindConfig container of
> adsiedit.msc.
>
> If I use adsiedit.msc and I can see several objets in the CN=NTDS
> Settings,
> CN=LostandFoundConfig, CN=Configuration, DC=company,dc=local,
>
> Do you know whether there is a way to recover from LostAndFoundConfig?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>>
>>
>> If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is
>> a
>> member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now
>> this
>> is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your
>> test
>> enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they
>> are
>> no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
>> "connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have
>> the
>> parent child relationship.
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>> "John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
>> >I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
>> > In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
>> > domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
>> > in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>> >
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>> >
>> > Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
>> > controllers
>> > in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
>> > services,
>> > the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
>> > additional
>> > root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites
>> > and
>> > services
>> > of child domain???
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>> >
>>
Author
20 Mar 2009 12:28 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
If you did a metadata cleanup on the wrong DC, you won't be able to recover
it other than through tape restore.

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Show quoteHide quote
"John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:063D83BB-5371-4FC0-9638-28402F14A5B8@microsoft.com...
> Thank you.
>
> Probably, by mistae I metadata cleanup the wrong domain controller.
>
> Now, I can see the domain controller shows LostandFindConfig container of
> adsiedit.msc.
>
> If I use adsiedit.msc and I can see several objets in the CN=NTDS
> Settings,
> CN=LostandFoundConfig, CN=Configuration, DC=company,dc=local,
>
> Do you know whether there is a way to recover from LostAndFoundConfig?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Danny Sanders" wrote:
>
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>>
>>
>> If you dcpromo one root domain controller (you removed AD and now this is
>> a
>> member server) and one child domain controller (you removed AD and now
>> this
>> is a member server) Then you connect the two domain controllers in your
>> test
>> enviornment. If you ran dcpromo on the two servers you connected, they
>> are
>> no longer Domain Controllers. If you ran dcpromo a second time before you
>> "connected" them you probably have created 2 new domains that don't have
>> the
>> parent child relationship.
>>
>> hth
>> DDS
>>
>> "John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
>> >I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
>> > In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
>> > domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
>> > in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>> >
>> > I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
>> > in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
>> > in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
>> > controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>> >
>> > Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
>> > controllers
>> > in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
>> > services,
>> > the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
>> > directory
>> > sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
>> > additional
>> > root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites
>> > and
>> > services
>> > of child domain???
>> >
>> > What am I missing?
>> >
>>
Author
20 Mar 2009 12:26 PM
Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]
I have an article on creating a test domain at

http://www.pbbergs.com/windows/articles.htm
Select Create a Test AD Domain

--
Paul Bergson
MVP - Directory Services
MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4

http://www.pbbergs.com

Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup This
posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


Show quoteHide quote
"John" <J***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F53E21F1-3233-4A39-A6E3-071A5AF82317@microsoft.com...
>I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
> In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
> domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
> in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>
> I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>
> Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain
> controllers
> in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and
> services,
> the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active
> directory
> sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active
> directory
> sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created
> additional
> root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites and
> services
> of child domain???
>
> What am I missing?
>
Author
21 Mar 2009 8:14 PM
Garry Starck - MCITP
Hi John

Are you certain that you removed the wrong DC with Metadata Cleanup, it the
answer is no, then repliation between the root and child domains is not
working. You need to to ensure the DNS partitions are updating and that
forwarding should be set form child to root and reverse if the domain local
DNS zones are in default DomainDNSZones Partitions, and that the
_MSDCS.DOMAIN.EXAMPLE.COM has replicattion set to thr Forest scope, eg: in
the ForestDNSZones NC/Partition. Add a test entry host on the root DC and
wait +- 15 seconds for Intrasite Replication to complete, + 3 seconds extra
for every other DC in the same site. If the child domain is not receiving the
updates new host entry, then since it is a lab, delete the child domains
_msdcs.*.* and set forwarding to the Root DC for the _MSDCS zone or create a
stub, or secondary zone to it. Set Child Dom DC to point to the root DC as
primary DNS server and restart the child domain dc's netlogon service and
allow they records to be created.

What does Repadmin /replsum or REPLMON Gui show about the DNS partitions
replication. Once DNS is sorted out, the Configuration partition will update
the sites details as you require

Regards
--
Garry Starck
MCITP, MCTS AD, MCSE 2003 Messaging, MCDBA


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"John" wrote:

> I am duplicating production envir. to my test environment.
> In my production envir. we have one forest with empty root
> domain and one child domain.  All servers and users are sitting
> in the child domain. (windows 2003 R2 envir.)
>
> I dcpromo one root domain controller and one child domain controller
> in the production envir.  then I connect these two domain controllers
> in my test envir.  Then I seize all roles (5 roles) on the root domain
> controller and seize 3 roles on the child domain controller.
>
> Later, I was able to introduce additional root and child domain controllers
> in my test envir.  But, when I check the Active Directory sites and services,
> the newly promoted child domain controller ony shows in the active directory
> sites and services of child domain but does not show in the active directory
> sites and services of root domain.  viceversa, the newly created additional
> root domain controller does not show up in the active directory sites and
> services
> of child domain???
>
> What am I missing?
>

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