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Win2k3R2 Domain Preparing for Win2k8 Member & Domain ControllersWe have 4 DC's, all WINDOWS 2003 R2. ( no Windows 2000 DC's of course ) We have 1 Windows 2000 Member Server which houses our Intranet. I just recently raised the forest and domain level to : Windows 2003 We run Exchange 2007 as well. We are looking to add a Windows 2008 Member Server to the domain and join it. Q: Can I just install Windows 2008 32-bit Standard without Hyper-V and join the domain without any issues? ------------------------------- I assume NO, I need to prepare for Windows 2008 Domain Controllers first. I've reviewed the link : http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731314.aspx My plan would be: Run -------- adprep /forestprep from the fsmo DC at 7 pm after hours Run -------- adprep /domainprep /gpprep from Infrastructure Master the next day 7 pm That should allow more then enough time for replication of each upgrade to occur, well beyond what required. From my understanding that is all that is needed ....as per Page 1 of "Introduce a Windows Server 2008-Based Member Server" Q: Do you agree? I'll leave the questions at that. Hello Kyle,
If the 2008 server should only be a member server, doesn't matter if Hyper-V or not, you do NOT have to upgrade the schema. Schema upgrade is only needed if you will promote a 2008 DC in the domain. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Show quoteHide quote > Hi, > We have 4 DC's, all WINDOWS 2003 R2. ( no Windows 2000 DC's of course > ) > We have 1 Windows 2000 Member Server which houses our Intranet. > I just recently raised the forest and domain level to : Windows 2003 > > We run Exchange 2007 as well. > > We are looking to add a Windows 2008 Member Server to the domain and > join it. > > Q: Can I just install Windows 2008 32-bit Standard without Hyper-V > and join the domain without any issues? > > ------------------------------- > > I assume NO, I need to prepare for Windows 2008 Domain Controllers > first. > > I've reviewed the link : > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731314.aspx > > My plan would be: > > Run -------- adprep /forestprep from the fsmo DC at 7 pm after hours > Run -------- adprep /domainprep /gpprep from Infrastructure Master > the next > day 7 pm > That should allow more then enough time for replication of each > upgrade to occur, well beyond what required. > > From my understanding that is all that is needed ....as per Page 1 of > "Introduce a Windows Server 2008-Based Member Server" > > Q: Do you agree? > > I'll leave the questions at that. > Thank you for your time.
I will just go ahead and install win2k8 member server and join the domain. Show quoteHide quote "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > Hello Kyle, > > If the 2008 server should only be a member server, doesn't matter if Hyper-V > or not, you do NOT have to upgrade the schema. Schema upgrade is only needed > if you will promote a 2008 DC in the domain. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > > Hi, > > We have 4 DC's, all WINDOWS 2003 R2. ( no Windows 2000 DC's of course > > ) > > We have 1 Windows 2000 Member Server which houses our Intranet. > > I just recently raised the forest and domain level to : Windows 2003 > > > > We run Exchange 2007 as well. > > > > We are looking to add a Windows 2008 Member Server to the domain and > > join it. > > > > Q: Can I just install Windows 2008 32-bit Standard without Hyper-V > > and join the domain without any issues? > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > I assume NO, I need to prepare for Windows 2008 Domain Controllers > > first. > > > > I've reviewed the link : > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731314.aspx > > > > My plan would be: > > > > Run -------- adprep /forestprep from the fsmo DC at 7 pm after hours > > Run -------- adprep /domainprep /gpprep from Infrastructure Master > > the next > > day 7 pm > > That should allow more then enough time for replication of each > > upgrade to occur, well beyond what required. > > > > From my understanding that is all that is needed ....as per Page 1 of > > "Introduce a Windows Server 2008-Based Member Server" > > > > Q: Do you agree? > > > > I'll leave the questions at that. > > > > > Just an update, I installed a 64 bit machine Windows 2008 Member server and
joined our domain. All went well - THANK YOU! Q: I have to upgrade the Schema to run OCS Server, but am not ready to update all DC's to 2008 . Can I just run these two commands to get OCS Server to run? When I run the OCS installer is fails with Forest Prep: The forest Schema is not prepared to host Office communications server [ 0xc3ec7800] Show quoteHide quote "Kyle Blake" wrote: > Thank you for your time. > > I will just go ahead and install win2k8 member server and join the domain. > > > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > > > Hello Kyle, > > > > If the 2008 server should only be a member server, doesn't matter if Hyper-V > > or not, you do NOT have to upgrade the schema. Schema upgrade is only needed > > if you will promote a 2008 DC in the domain. > > > > Best regards > > > > Meinolf Weber > > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > > no rights. > > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > > > > > Hi, > > > We have 4 DC's, all WINDOWS 2003 R2. ( no Windows 2000 DC's of course > > > ) > > > We have 1 Windows 2000 Member Server which houses our Intranet. > > > I just recently raised the forest and domain level to : Windows 2003 > > > > > > We run Exchange 2007 as well. > > > > > > We are looking to add a Windows 2008 Member Server to the domain and > > > join it. > > > > > > Q: Can I just install Windows 2008 32-bit Standard without Hyper-V > > > and join the domain without any issues? > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > > I assume NO, I need to prepare for Windows 2008 Domain Controllers > > > first. > > > > > > I've reviewed the link : > > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731314.aspx > > > > > > My plan would be: > > > > > > Run -------- adprep /forestprep from the fsmo DC at 7 pm after hours > > > Run -------- adprep /domainprep /gpprep from Infrastructure Master > > > the next > > > day 7 pm > > > That should allow more then enough time for replication of each > > > upgrade to occur, well beyond what required. > > > > > > From my understanding that is all that is needed ....as per Page 1 of > > > "Introduce a Windows Server 2008-Based Member Server" > > > > > > Q: Do you agree? > > > > > > I'll leave the questions at that. > > > > > > > > > Hello Kyle,
Schema update doesn't require to upgrade the DC's also. OCS itself has its own schema changes so not from 2008. Use the setup disk and follow the disk. There should be an automatic GUI way described about the needed steps. Also this guide will help to upgrade the schema for OCS: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=384793A6-D315-4217-B034-6D189EF6DF13&displaylang=en Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Show quoteHide quote > Just an update, I installed a 64 bit machine Windows 2008 Member > server and joined our domain. All went well - THANK YOU! > > Q: I have to upgrade the Schema to run OCS Server, but am not ready > to update all DC's to 2008 . > > Can I just run these two commands to get OCS Server to run? > > When I run the OCS installer is fails with Forest Prep: The forest > Schema is not prepared to host Office communications server [ > 0xc3ec7800] > > "Kyle Blake" wrote: > >> Thank you for your time. >> >> I will just go ahead and install win2k8 member server and join the >> domain. >> >> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: >> >>> Hello Kyle, >>> >>> If the 2008 server should only be a member server, doesn't matter if >>> Hyper-V or not, you do NOT have to upgrade the schema. Schema >>> upgrade is only needed if you will promote a 2008 DC in the domain. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Meinolf Weber >>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >>> confers >>> no rights. >>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>>> Hi, >>>> We have 4 DC's, all WINDOWS 2003 R2. ( no Windows 2000 DC's of >>>> course >>>> ) >>>> We have 1 Windows 2000 Member Server which houses our Intranet. >>>> I just recently raised the forest and domain level to : Windows >>>> 2003 >>>> We run Exchange 2007 as well. >>>> >>>> We are looking to add a Windows 2008 Member Server to the domain >>>> and join it. >>>> >>>> Q: Can I just install Windows 2008 32-bit Standard without Hyper-V >>>> and join the domain without any issues? >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>>> I assume NO, I need to prepare for Windows 2008 Domain Controllers >>>> first. >>>> >>>> I've reviewed the link : >>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731314.aspx >>>> My plan would be: >>>> >>>> Run -------- adprep /forestprep from the fsmo DC at 7 pm after >>>> hours >>>> Run -------- adprep /domainprep /gpprep from Infrastructure Master >>>> the next >>>> day 7 pm >>>> That should allow more then enough time for replication of each >>>> upgrade to occur, well beyond what required. >>>> From my understanding that is all that is needed ....as per Page 1 >>>> of "Introduce a Windows Server 2008-Based Member Server" >>>> >>>> Q: Do you agree? >>>> >>>> I'll leave the questions at that. >>>> Hello,
Thank you so much for your time. The schema is upgraded but the forest prep error is still there. When I run the OCS installer is fails with Forest Prep: The forest Schema is not prepared to host Office communications server [ 0xc3ec7800] This is why I'm thinking it must be a 2008 domain? Show quoteHide quote "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > Hello Kyle, > > Schema update doesn't require to upgrade the DC's also. OCS itself has its > own schema changes so not from 2008. Use the setup disk and follow the disk. > There should be an automatic GUI way described about the needed steps. > > Also this guide will help to upgrade the schema for OCS: > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=384793A6-D315-4217-B034-6D189EF6DF13&displaylang=en > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > > Just an update, I installed a 64 bit machine Windows 2008 Member > > server and joined our domain. All went well - THANK YOU! > > > > Q: I have to upgrade the Schema to run OCS Server, but am not ready > > to update all DC's to 2008 . > > > > Can I just run these two commands to get OCS Server to run? > > > > When I run the OCS installer is fails with Forest Prep: The forest > > Schema is not prepared to host Office communications server [ > > 0xc3ec7800] > > > > "Kyle Blake" wrote: > > > >> Thank you for your time. > >> > >> I will just go ahead and install win2k8 member server and join the > >> domain. > >> > >> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Kyle, > >>> > >>> If the 2008 server should only be a member server, doesn't matter if > >>> Hyper-V or not, you do NOT have to upgrade the schema. Schema > >>> upgrade is only needed if you will promote a 2008 DC in the domain. > >>> > >>> Best regards > >>> > >>> Meinolf Weber > >>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >>> confers > >>> no rights. > >>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > >>>> Hi, > >>>> We have 4 DC's, all WINDOWS 2003 R2. ( no Windows 2000 DC's of > >>>> course > >>>> ) > >>>> We have 1 Windows 2000 Member Server which houses our Intranet. > >>>> I just recently raised the forest and domain level to : Windows > >>>> 2003 > >>>> We run Exchange 2007 as well. > >>>> > >>>> We are looking to add a Windows 2008 Member Server to the domain > >>>> and join it. > >>>> > >>>> Q: Can I just install Windows 2008 32-bit Standard without Hyper-V > >>>> and join the domain without any issues? > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> I assume NO, I need to prepare for Windows 2008 Domain Controllers > >>>> first. > >>>> > >>>> I've reviewed the link : > >>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc731314.aspx > >>>> My plan would be: > >>>> > >>>> Run -------- adprep /forestprep from the fsmo DC at 7 pm after > >>>> hours > >>>> Run -------- adprep /domainprep /gpprep from Infrastructure Master > >>>> the next > >>>> day 7 pm > >>>> That should allow more then enough time for replication of each > >>>> upgrade to occur, well beyond what required. > >>>> From my understanding that is all that is needed ....as per Page 1 > >>>> of "Introduce a Windows Server 2008-Based Member Server" > >>>> > >>>> Q: Do you agree? > >>>> > >>>> I'll leave the questions at that. > >>>> > > > Hello Kyle,
Are all DC's up and running? Check with repadmin /showrepl that no errors exist. Also see here, expand the "+" in the left pane: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb905920.aspx Also check this article about mangled attributes, do not take care about exchange, check the 3 attributes: http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314649 Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Show quoteHide quote > The forest Schema is not prepared to host Office communications server > [ 0xc3ec7800] > My co-worker re-ran the install wizard and it proceeded through just fine.
The previous work I did (in this post) was sufficient, I'm not sure what my co-worker did wrong, maybe she re-ran the setup before replication occured. All this work was done a long time ago though. Sorry about this... At least it proves you don't need a win2k8 DC running to run OCS. Lets see if the rest of it gets installed. Show quoteHide quote "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > Hello Kyle, > > Are all DC's up and running? Check with repadmin /showrepl that no errors > exist. > > Also see here, expand the "+" in the left pane: > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb905920.aspx > > Also check this article about mangled attributes, do not take care about > exchange, check the 3 attributes: > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314649 > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > > The forest Schema is not prepared to host Office communications server > > [ 0xc3ec7800] > > > > > Hello Kyle,
Nice to hear that you solved it. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm Show quoteHide quote > My co-worker re-ran the install wizard and it proceeded through just > fine. The previous work I did (in this post) was sufficient, I'm not > sure what my co-worker did wrong, maybe she re-ran the setup before > replication occured. > > All this work was done a long time ago though. > > Sorry about this... At least it proves you don't need a win2k8 DC > running to run OCS. Lets see if the rest of it gets installed. > > "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" wrote: > >> Hello Kyle, >> >> Are all DC's up and running? Check with repadmin /showrepl that no >> errors exist. >> >> Also see here, expand the "+" in the left pane: >> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb905920.aspx >> Also check this article about mangled attributes, do not take care >> about >> exchange, check the 3 attributes: >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=314649 >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>> The forest Schema is not prepared to host Office communications >>> server [ 0xc3ec7800] >>> 
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