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Author
16 Mar 2009 11:22 AM
Cary Shultz
Good morning, All!

We have a client (SBS2003 / MS Office 2007 running on Windows XP SP3
machines) who has a request that we provide a customized signature that
pulls specific information from AD (First Name, Last Name, Company, Address,
Title, image) so that everyone in the office will have essentially the same
signature in e-mail.

Essentially, that signature would look something like this

Cary Shultz
MyWidgets, Inc.
123 Main Street
Anytown, VA 24000
Tel: 540.555.1212
insert company .jpeg here

This is becoming a bit more challenging than I thought it might be.

Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this?

We would like to avoid purchasing a third-party application if possible
(but, can anyone recommend one - just in case?).

I have included several news groups (SBS, AD, GPO, Exchange) in this same
post.....

Thanks everyone!

Author
16 Mar 2009 11:48 AM
Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]
> We would like to avoid purchasing a third-party application if possible
> (but, can anyone recommend one - just in case?).

www.exclaimer.co.uk

It does what you want, re: insert AD information for users on
disclaimers/signatures

Oliver
Author
16 Mar 2009 12:31 PM
Martin Blackstone [MVP]
That's what we use.

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"Oliver Moazzezi [MVP]" <o.moazzezino@spamfreenet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> We would like to avoid purchasing a third-party application if possible
>> (but, can anyone recommend one - just in case?).
>
> www.exclaimer.co.uk
>
> It does what you want, re: insert AD information for users on
> disclaimers/signatures
>
> Oliver
>
Author
16 Mar 2009 1:06 PM
Mark Heitbrink [MVP]
Hi,

Martin Blackstone [MVP] schrieb:
>> www.exclaimer.co.uk
>> It does what you want, re: insert AD information for users on
>> disclaimers/signatures

What about crypted Emails?
Excalimer sits on the SMTP and manipulates every outgoing mail
(or every defined by filter/rule).
If it´s put his signatur on a crypted mail, the fingerprint is
no longer valid, the mail is manipulated.

If I exclude crypted mails by rule, then they will not have a
signature. Not what I want ...

Mark
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Author
16 Mar 2009 1:49 PM
Martin Blackstone [MVP]
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"Mark Heitbrink [MVP]" <spam-only@gruppenrichtlinien.de> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Martin Blackstone [MVP] schrieb:
>>> www.exclaimer.co.uk
>>> It does what you want, re: insert AD information for users on
>>> disclaimers/signatures
>
> What about crypted Emails?
> Excalimer sits on the SMTP and manipulates every outgoing mail
> (or every defined by filter/rule).
> If it´s put his signatur on a crypted mail, the fingerprint is
> no longer valid, the mail is manipulated.
>
> If I exclude crypted mails by rule, then they will not have a
> signature. Not what I want ...
>

Good points. However I think that's a question better asked of the Vendor.
Author
16 Mar 2009 1:57 PM
Cary Shultz
Oliver, Marking, Mark!

exclaimer was what I was thinking but the client does send a lot of
'encryted' e-mails to the US Government (specific 'Departments').  So, that
kinda killed that idea.....But, shoot!  Thanks for the awesome tip.  If it
were not for that one 'tiny' issue this would have been the perfect answer
(sorry for not including that in my original post....that would have been
useful information for me to include!).

Cary

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"Mark Heitbrink [MVP]" <spam-only@gruppenrichtlinien.de> wrote in message
news:uI4EZljpJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> Martin Blackstone [MVP] schrieb:
>>> www.exclaimer.co.uk
>>> It does what you want, re: insert AD information for users on
>>> disclaimers/signatures
>
> What about crypted Emails?
> Excalimer sits on the SMTP and manipulates every outgoing mail
> (or every defined by filter/rule).
> If it´s put his signatur on a crypted mail, the fingerprint is
> no longer valid, the mail is manipulated.
>
> If I exclude crypted mails by rule, then they will not have a
> signature. Not what I want ...
>
> Mark
> --
> Mark Heitbrink - MVP Windows Server - Group Policy
>
> Homepage: www.gruppenrichtlinien.de - deutsch
> Discuss : www.freelists.org/list/gpupdate
Author
16 Mar 2009 12:03 PM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Cary,

Check this .vbs:
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1079

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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> Good morning, All!
>
> We have a client (SBS2003 / MS Office 2007 running on Windows XP SP3
> machines) who has a request that we provide a customized signature
> that pulls specific information from AD (First Name, Last Name,
> Company, Address, Title, image) so that everyone in the office will
> have essentially the same signature in e-mail.
>
> Essentially, that signature would look something like this
>
> Cary Shultz
> MyWidgets, Inc.
> 123 Main Street
> Anytown, VA 24000
> Tel: 540.555.1212
> insert company .jpeg here
> This is becoming a bit more challenging than I thought it might be.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this?
>
> We would like to avoid purchasing a third-party application if
> possible (but, can anyone recommend one - just in case?).
>
> I have included several news groups (SBS, AD, GPO, Exchange) in this
> same post.....
>
> Thanks everyone!
>
Author
16 Mar 2009 1:58 PM
Cary Shultz
Das scheint, mir geholfen zu haben!

I wonder how I did not find it?  I did look before posting!!!!!!!!!!!!  And,
I looked on this web site (known about this site for several years!).  Oh,
well.  Maybe I needed to take my glasses off!

Thanks!

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> Hello Cary,
>
> Check this .vbs:
> http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1079
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Good morning, All!
>>
>> We have a client (SBS2003 / MS Office 2007 running on Windows XP SP3
>> machines) who has a request that we provide a customized signature
>> that pulls specific information from AD (First Name, Last Name,
>> Company, Address, Title, image) so that everyone in the office will
>> have essentially the same signature in e-mail.
>>
>> Essentially, that signature would look something like this
>>
>> Cary Shultz
>> MyWidgets, Inc.
>> 123 Main Street
>> Anytown, VA 24000
>> Tel: 540.555.1212
>> insert company .jpeg here
>> This is becoming a bit more challenging than I thought it might be.
>>
>> Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this?
>>
>> We would like to avoid purchasing a third-party application if
>> possible (but, can anyone recommend one - just in case?).
>>
>> I have included several news groups (SBS, AD, GPO, Exchange) in this
>> same post.....
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
>>
>
>
Author
16 Mar 2009 2:10 PM
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Cary,

Freut mich, nice to hear and help.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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no rights.
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> Das scheint, mir geholfen zu haben!
>
> I wonder how I did not find it?  I did look before posting!!!!!!!!!!!!
> And, I looked on this web site (known about this site for several
> years!).  Oh, well.  Maybe I needed to take my glasses off!
>
> Thanks!
>
> "Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]" <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:ff16fb661d0698cb744ead16fc69@msnews.microsoft.com...
>
>> Hello Cary,
>>
>> Check this .vbs:
>> http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1079
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Good morning, All!
>>>
>>> We have a client (SBS2003 / MS Office 2007 running on Windows XP SP3
>>> machines) who has a request that we provide a customized signature
>>> that pulls specific information from AD (First Name, Last Name,
>>> Company, Address, Title, image) so that everyone in the office will
>>> have essentially the same signature in e-mail.
>>>
>>> Essentially, that signature would look something like this
>>>
>>> Cary Shultz
>>> MyWidgets, Inc.
>>> 123 Main Street
>>> Anytown, VA 24000
>>> Tel: 540.555.1212
>>> insert company .jpeg here
>>> This is becoming a bit more challenging than I thought it might be.
>>> Does anyone know of a way to accomplish this?
>>>
>>> We would like to avoid purchasing a third-party application if
>>> possible (but, can anyone recommend one - just in case?).
>>>
>>> I have included several news groups (SBS, AD, GPO, Exchange) in this
>>> same post.....
>>>
>>> Thanks everyone!
>>>
Author
16 Mar 2009 2:20 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:ff16fb661d0998cb746079d097a9@msnews.microsoft.com,
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>, posted the following:
> Hello Cary,
>
> Freut mich, nice to hear and help.
>
> Best regards
>

Will that work with encrypted emails? One client I worked with used IronMail
including for TLS, but it did not pull AD info out for sigs.

--
Ace

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confers no rights.

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Microsoft Certified Trainer
ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org

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Author
16 Mar 2009 2:48 PM
Cary Shultz
Ace,

I am going to test this.....I have only briefly looked at the web site that
Meinolf suggested.  I will let everyone know as - I am sure - we are not the
only one sending e-mail to a Governmental Department.

I will keep you posted!

BTW - love the "Red Marbles" e-mail.........
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"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:%23gX9UKkpJHA.500@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> In news:ff16fb661d0998cb746079d097a9@msnews.microsoft.com,
> Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>, posted the following:
>> Hello Cary,
>>
>> Freut mich, nice to hear and help.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>
> Will that work with encrypted emails? One client I worked with used
> IronMail including for TLS, but it did not pull AD info out for sigs.
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging, MCT
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
>
Author
16 Mar 2009 7:01 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:OdUQXZkpJHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Cary Shultz <cshu***@outsourceit.com>, posted the following:
> Ace,
>
> I am going to test this.....I have only briefly looked at the web
> site that Meinolf suggested.  I will let everyone know as - I am sure
> - we are not the only one sending e-mail to a Governmental Department.
>
> I will keep you posted!
>
> BTW - love the "Red Marbles" e-mail.........

Red marbles? LOL! That was an interesting issue. :-)

As for Ironmail, I was working at a pharma with the same criteria regarding
sending encrypted emails to the FDA.

Looking forward to what you find out.

Ace
Author
17 Mar 2009 1:29 AM
Rich Matheisen [MVP]
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:20:18 -0400, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified
Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In news:ff16fb661d0998cb746079d097a9@msnews.microsoft.com,
>Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>, posted the following:
>> Hello Cary,
>>
>> Freut mich, nice to hear and help.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>
>Will that work with encrypted emails? One client I worked with used IronMail
>including for TLS, but it did not pull AD info out for sigs.

It will if it's the one I think it is. Outlook encrypts the email and
Outlook inserts the signature. The signature is just some additional
text within the message body and it's encrypted, too.
---
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
Author
17 Mar 2009 2:29 AM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
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"Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:20:18 -0400, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified
> Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In news:ff16fb661d0998cb746079d097a9@msnews.microsoft.com,
>>Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS] <meiweb(nospam)@gmx.de>, posted the following:
>>> Hello Cary,
>>>
>>> Freut mich, nice to hear and help.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>
>>Will that work with encrypted emails? One client I worked with used
>>IronMail
>>including for TLS, but it did not pull AD info out for sigs.
>
> It will if it's the one I think it is. Outlook encrypts the email and
> Outlook inserts the signature. The signature is just some additional
> text within the message body and it's encrypted, too.
> ---
> Rich Matheisen
> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP


Hi Rich,

IronMail from CA. It does parse AD pretty much only to prevent DHA and to
reject emails not in the directory, but wasn't sure if it will populate
specific AD user attributs, as indicated in this thread.

The one thing I see, is since Outlook encrypts the email, IronMail cannot
open it to attach such a sig, unless it appends it to the encrypted body. So
are you saying that is what it would do? I would have tested it at the
customer site, but unfortunately I'm no longer with that customer.

Thanks,

Ace
Author
17 Mar 2009 2:52 AM
Rich Matheisen [MVP]
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:29:49 -0400, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified
Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:

                    [ snip ]

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>>>Will that work with encrypted emails? One client I worked with used
>>>IronMail
>>>including for TLS, but it did not pull AD info out for sigs.
>>
>> It will if it's the one I think it is. Outlook encrypts the email and
>> Outlook inserts the signature. The signature is just some additional
>> text within the message body and it's encrypted, too.
>> ---
>> Rich Matheisen
>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>
>
>Hi Rich,
>
>IronMail from CA.

Been using Ironmail for years (I think we started with release 4.0 --
since it was CipherTrust, then Secure Computing, and now CA).

>It does parse AD pretty much only to prevent DHA and to
>reject emails not in the directory, but wasn't sure if it will populate
>specific AD user attributs, as indicated in this thread.

It won't. I was referring to the VB script that populates the users
signature on the client machine. Sorry if I got the reply in the wrong
place.

>The one thing I see, is since Outlook encrypts the email, IronMail cannot
>open it to attach such a sig,

That's a fact.

>unless it appends it to the encrypted body.

I forget if it would do that, but having IM (or anything other than
the client) insert the signature is always a dicey proposition. What
if there are multiple MIME body parts? In which do you insert the
signature? For encrypted messages the signature would have to be in a
separate, unencrypted, body part.

>So
>are you saying that is what it would do?

Nope. See above. Probably put my post in as an answer to the wrong
person.
---
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
Author
17 Mar 2009 3:02 AM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:ek3ur4t2mho9nnsrj9pu8jjir5bg3dpie8@4ax.com,
Rich Matheisen [MVP] <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM>, posted the following:
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> On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:29:49 -0400, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified
> Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> [ snip ]
>
>>>> Will that work with encrypted emails? One client I worked with used
>>>> IronMail
>>>> including for TLS, but it did not pull AD info out for sigs.
>>>
>>> It will if it's the one I think it is. Outlook encrypts the email
>>> and Outlook inserts the signature. The signature is just some
>>> additional text within the message body and it's encrypted, too.
>>> ---
>>> Rich Matheisen
>>> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
>>
>>
>> Hi Rich,
>>
>> IronMail from CA.
>
> Been using Ironmail for years (I think we started with release 4.0 --
> since it was CipherTrust, then Secure Computing, and now CA).
>
>> It does parse AD pretty much only to prevent DHA and to
>> reject emails not in the directory, but wasn't sure if it will
>> populate specific AD user attributs, as indicated in this thread.
>
> It won't. I was referring to the VB script that populates the users
> signature on the client machine. Sorry if I got the reply in the wrong
> place.
>
>> The one thing I see, is since Outlook encrypts the email, IronMail
>> cannot open it to attach such a sig,
>
> That's a fact.
>
>> unless it appends it to the encrypted body.
>
> I forget if it would do that, but having IM (or anything other than
> the client) insert the signature is always a dicey proposition. What
> if there are multiple MIME body parts? In which do you insert the
> signature? For encrypted messages the signature would have to be in a
> separate, unencrypted, body part.
>
>> So
>> are you saying that is what it would do?
>
> Nope. See above. Probably put my post in as an answer to the wrong
> person.
> ---
> Rich Matheisen
> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP

Thanks for the clarification. Good point about anything other than a client
inserting a sig in an email, especially if it has mutliple MIME parts.
Definitely want the client to do it.

I've come to like IM, having worked with it for the past year or so. I like
the one option that many other do not have, which is having a Secure Web
Delivery (SWD) server for failed TLS communications. Many others (from what
I've seen of our partners) simply default to non-TLS when the TLS session
fails (for whatever reason whether cert checks, probs on the other end,
etc). This would go against the SLA if it requires that all communication to
a configured partner must be over TLS. In this case, I like IM where it will
send a notification to the intended recipient with a link to the SWD for
their email, and they can retrieve is over SSL.

Ace
Author
18 Mar 2009 12:56 PM
Rich Matheisen [MVP]
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:02:26 -0400, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified
Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com> wrote:

                    [ snip ]

>Thanks for the clarification. Good point about anything other than a client
>inserting a sig in an email, especially if it has mutliple MIME parts.
>Definitely want the client to do it.
>
>I've come to like IM, having worked with it for the past year or so.

Yeah, but after all these years their reporting still sux. :-(

>I like
>the one option that many other do not have, which is having a Secure Web
>Delivery (SWD) server for failed TLS communications. Many others (from what
>I've seen of our partners) simply default to non-TLS when the TLS session
>fails (for whatever reason whether cert checks, probs on the other end,
>etc). This would go against the SLA if it requires that all communication to
>a configured partner must be over TLS. In this case, I like IM where it will
>send a notification to the intended recipient with a link to the SWD for
>their email, and they can retrieve is over SSL.

If TLS is a requirement you can have IM enforce that, too (inbound and
outbound). The default is to offer TLS on inbound connections and to
use it if it's offered on outbound connections, but the default
doesn't /require/ the use of TLS.
---
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
Author
18 Mar 2009 1:17 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:4jr1s41q41c5q2cq5grp6ves1loo0ok4ic@4ax.com,
Rich Matheisen [MVP] <richnews@rmcons.com.NOSPAM.COM>, posted the following:
>
> Yeah, but after all these years their reporting still sux. :-(
>
[snpped]
> If TLS is a requirement you can have IM enforce that, too (inbound and
> outbound). The default is to offer TLS on inbound connections and to
> use it if it's offered on outbound connections, but the default
> doesn't /require/ the use of TLS.
> ---
> Rich Matheisen
> MCSE+I, Exchange MVP

No, the default isn't, but it can be enforced. Reporting is kind of weak.
They could improve on it. Sometimes searching for emails gets to be
cumbersome, espcially after I customized my console to show size, but when I
did another search, it would not display it! I kind of gave up on it.

Ace
Author
16 Mar 2009 2:31 PM
Mark Heitbrink [MVP]
Hi

Cary Shultz schrieb:
> We have a client (SBS2003 / MS Office 2007 running on Windows XP SP3
> machines) who has a request that we provide a customized signature [...]

Longer but functional way (crypted mail will work aswell)
- deploy the new Group Policy Preference to all clients
- install one Vista Machine (Virtual will do its job)
- install RSAT on the Vista
- use the new GPMC inside RSAT on the Vista

Now you can use the new GPP feature to easily deploy files and
registry settings.

- you can create the 3 files by script
  e.g. read data from AD, write it to the file(s)
- create one filecopy entry, filtered by Item Level Targeting in GPP
  to copy them to %appdata%\Microsoft\Signatures

There are a lot of alternatives, but I would not recommend a solution
that is manipulating the mail on the SMTP Outgoing Event, because the
crypted mails will be broken.
Thats the sad reason, why configuring it on every client and the
Outlook itself.

Alternatives:
Deploy Sig with variables by OutlookSignature.exe
http://www.zerbit.de/projekte/outlooksignature.aspx

Manipulating the SMTP:
Q288098 SAMPLE: How to Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP
Q317327 HOWTO Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP Messages in Visual Basic
Q317680 HOWTO Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP Messages in Visual Basic
        Script

.... and a lot of 3rd Party
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/sig.asp

Mark
--
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Homepage: www.gruppenrichtlinien.de - deutsch
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Author
16 Mar 2009 2:52 PM
Cary Shultz
Mark,

AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!!!!!

Now, the only problem that I see is the Vista part...this is a very small
company and they have already "suggested" that we perform a wipe and load on
two machines that *were* running Vista.  I will take a look at this, though.

It may be our only choice (assuming no third-party comes into play)!

Thanks again!

Cary

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"Mark Heitbrink [MVP]" <spam-only@gruppenrichtlinien.de> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Cary Shultz schrieb:
>> We have a client (SBS2003 / MS Office 2007 running on Windows XP SP3
>> machines) who has a request that we provide a customized signature [...]
>
> Longer but functional way (crypted mail will work aswell)
> - deploy the new Group Policy Preference to all clients
> - install one Vista Machine (Virtual will do its job)
> - install RSAT on the Vista
> - use the new GPMC inside RSAT on the Vista
>
> Now you can use the new GPP feature to easily deploy files and
> registry settings.
>
> - you can create the 3 files by script
>  e.g. read data from AD, write it to the file(s)
> - create one filecopy entry, filtered by Item Level Targeting in GPP
>  to copy them to %appdata%\Microsoft\Signatures
>
> There are a lot of alternatives, but I would not recommend a solution
> that is manipulating the mail on the SMTP Outgoing Event, because the
> crypted mails will be broken.
> Thats the sad reason, why configuring it on every client and the
> Outlook itself.
>
> Alternatives:
> Deploy Sig with variables by OutlookSignature.exe
> http://www.zerbit.de/projekte/outlooksignature.aspx
>
> Manipulating the SMTP:
> Q288098 SAMPLE: How to Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP
> Q317327 HOWTO Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP Messages in Visual Basic
> Q317680 HOWTO Add a Disclaimer to Outgoing SMTP Messages in Visual Basic
>        Script
>
> ... and a lot of 3rd Party
> http://www.slipstick.com/addins/sig.asp
>
> Mark
> --
> Mark Heitbrink - MVP Windows Server - Group Policy
>
> Homepage: www.gruppenrichtlinien.de - deutsch
> Discuss : www.freelists.org/list/gpupdate
Author
16 Mar 2009 7:07 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:%23$SJGbkpJHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Cary Shultz <cshu***@outsourceit.com>, posted the following:
> Mark,
>
> AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!!!!!
>
> Now, the only problem that I see is the Vista part...this is a very
> small company and they have already "suggested" that we perform a
> wipe and load on two machines that *were* running Vista.  I will take
> a look at this, though.
> It may be our only choice (assuming no third-party comes into play)!
>
> Thanks again!
>

I think so far, Mark's suggestion seems to be the best bet, since it applies
the sig to the email prior to sending it.

Ace
Author
16 Mar 2009 9:35 PM
Cary Shultz
Agreed...but I think that we are going to have a hard time with the Vista
machine....they have already removed Vista from two machines....I will speak
with our POC to see if she will go for it.....or pay for a third party.

But, this has piqued my interest.  I am now viewing this as a challenge to
avoid paying for third-party software!  I can see trouble in my future....my
Boss does not like it when I feel 'challenged'!.  We are a Managed Services
company so there is a 'fix cost' associated with each client (hate to look
at it that way...).  Me spending x number of hours on something because of a
challenge kinda throws everything off kilter!  I am sure that I will hear
about it!

I will keep you informed!

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"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:uEUCqqmpJHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In news:%23$SJGbkpJHA.4516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
> Cary Shultz <cshu***@outsourceit.com>, posted the following:
>> Mark,
>>
>> AUSGEZEICHNET!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Now, the only problem that I see is the Vista part...this is a very
>> small company and they have already "suggested" that we perform a
>> wipe and load on two machines that *were* running Vista.  I will take
>> a look at this, though.
>> It may be our only choice (assuming no third-party comes into play)!
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>
> I think so far, Mark's suggestion seems to be the best bet, since it
> applies the sig to the email prior to sending it.
>
> Ace
>
Author
17 Mar 2009 2:35 AM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:%23hhTu8npJHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
Cary Shultz <cshu***@outsourceit.com>, posted the following:
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> Agreed...but I think that we are going to have a hard time with the
> Vista machine....they have already removed Vista from two
> machines....I will speak with our POC to see if she will go for
> it.....or pay for a third party.
> But, this has piqued my interest.  I am now viewing this as a
> challenge to avoid paying for third-party software!  I can see
> trouble in my future....my Boss does not like it when I feel
> 'challenged'!.  We are a Managed Services company so there is a 'fix
> cost' associated with each client (hate to look at it that way...). Me
> spending x number of hours on something because of a challenge
> kinda throws everything off kilter!  I am sure that I will hear about
> it!
> I will keep you informed!
>

We wouldn't want any kilters! :-)

Maybe I'm not following the removing Vista portion, since I thought we are
talking about Outlook and creating a GPO with mutiple settings (one for each
Outlook ADM), and this type of setting only apply to users and not
computers? Did I miss something?

Ace
Author
17 Mar 2009 3:03 AM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:e$pu8kqpJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer] <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com>,
posted the following:

Never mind, forgot it was Preferences we were talking about and need the
RSAT on a Vista SP1 machine to make it work.

:-)

Ace
Author
17 Mar 2009 3:48 PM
Cary Shultz
No worries......we can not see and remember *everything*!

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"Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com>
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> In news:e$pu8kqpJHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
> Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer] <firstnamelastn***@hotmail.com>,
> posted the following:
>
> Never mind, forgot it was Preferences we were talking about and need the
> RSAT on a Vista SP1 machine to make it work.
>
> :-)
>
> Ace
>
>
Author
17 Mar 2009 11:37 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
In news:OTmrefxpJHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Cary Shultz <cshu***@outsourceit.com>, posted the following:
> No worries......we can not see and remember *everything*!

Sometimes I get "CRS" - can't remember stuff! LOL

Ace